The irony is that noamax is probably the biggest nation main in this discussion.
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Not even sort of relevant, it has very good APFSDS which is far better than any of those
Just because a tank isn’t amazing at a certain playstyle doesn’t mean it’s not dominant.
According to StatShark neither you nor @MotorolaCRO have played it, @An_Pigeon and I have and we agree it’s incredibly strong.
So is moving up the T-55s which was the entire point of our discussion.
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Vehicle: T64BV
BR: 9.7 —> 10.0
Seeing the Shir2 and the AMX40 rightfully go up in BR to 10.0, it’s only fair if the T64BV moves up as well.
It’s got better armor stock than the leo2k and the amx40, and even better with the ERA package. it can eat their apfsds rounds reliably if somewhat angled. It’s got a greater apfsds than the 10.0 tanks mentioned, and a better reload than the leo2k and amx40 (without the aced crew). what it lacks for is the mobility which makes it use a different playstyle, giving it a more relaxed playstyle of sniping and eating rounds.
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If AM-1 moved up to 9.0 then most other 8.7s should as well. I was just telling you that stabilization is a bit more important than you might think.
No. Its fine where it is.
Yeah but with the BRENUS it’s a bit different, but I think you need to play it to understand what I mean about the stabilizer.
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Even though im here saying stuff like
T72a up
T64b up
T80ud up
Etc etc
Nah definitely a russian man 😂
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I mean ofc its important but the brenus makes ip for it in every other aspect.
Like if it had an 8.7 round and no thermals it would likely be extremely difficult to use.
However seeing as it has a myriad of other boons it makes up for the lack of a stab.
In most other cases id say it needed a stab but this and the 30b2 are alright.
They can do alright in cqc as well, you just have to be patient and less aggressive
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Not if all the other 9.7s move up.
T64BV is my favourite T series tank and genuinely believe it should goto 10.0
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Yeah it definitely has some pros going for it, but lacking the stabilizer in lobbies filled with tanks that have it doesn’t really feel right from my experience. But of course this is personal preference and people have different playstyles.
@jspene
I’ve played tanks that don’t have it in lobbies filled with fully stabilized enemies and I simply didn’t like it. Extra features that BRENUS has surely do help but I don’t think I’d enjoy it that much simply because of that reason.
The difference is those extras on the brenus actually make a massivr difference, you just cant be hyper aggressive in most situations.
Genuinely for almost anyother tank id prefer a stab but the brenus does compensate fornit
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“because i said so” ahh response
Air RB
Low BR all aspects slingers: where is the airspawn allowing them to get higher in BR and decompress the 9.0 - 9.7 BR area?
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Air RB
Mirage 2000D RMV
Why is it higher than the 2000D with only the addition of intelligent bombs? Its fighting capabilities are nowhere enough to justify a BR increase
I really dont see reason to move AMX M4 and AMX-13 on 7.0
AMX M4 armor is average at level 6.7
For the firepower of the AMX M4 gun is basically at the level of the long 88 which is the most used gun in german techtree on 6.3-6.7
In mobility is AMX M4 also average for medium tank on 6.7
AMX-13 is extremely average on level 6.7 in armor, firepower and mobility
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Also gets HMD which, with the Magic II is quite potent, but yeah, probably could be 12.3 quite comfortably
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Clickbait, M1A1, and the HC have kower win rates than the Arietes and Leopards. Why would they get moved up if they perform worse.
“At the level of the long 88”
- it’s got 22mms more pen and a 6.7 autoloader compared to the 7.5s on the ACED crew on the tiger2, and 33mms more pen than the long90s on the T26 and T32 having a 6.7s autoloader compared to the 14.5s on an ACED crew.
“In mobility it’s average for a medium at 6.7”
- Is got 1000hp and a 19.2hp/ton compared to the 12.1hp/ton on the M26, and the 16.7hp/ton of the T-44
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Thats an issue between the keyboard and the chair.
The tanks statistically are on par with or better than the majority.
For example are you telling me the M1A2 is worse than an ariete?
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This comment is very obtuse, and makes me laugh. I don’t know what I’m talking about and own the vehicle?
How much more one sided could you be??
It’s not like I told you the problems it faces, nor did I say they weren’t semi managable