Planned Battle Rating changes for April 2025

I dont deny the T-80UD armor is good, but it also has low survivality and the same weakspots.

The better armor T80UD is only relevant in the frontal arc, against more modern shells.

All in all it’s not that different (armor) to the T-72B which is the closest counterpart to it in terms of BR, no thermal and armor.

I can agree on that but for now its better to have t55 in 8.7 then it terrorising 7.3
Also u gonna still get downtierd alot to 7.7 anyway

TFW merkavas arent the greates tank in war thunder(they are NATO standard by 2035 trust)

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Vehicle: ZLT11
BR changes: none
Other changes: switch place with ZBD04A
Both vehicles are great and fine at their BR. However since the ZBD04A gets raised in BR, the ZLT11 sits below it while being a notch lower. They could be switched in place.

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Vehicle: Spitfire LF Mk IX/Mk XIVe/Mk XVIII/FR Mk XIVe(BEL)/LF Mk IX(ISR)/LF Mk IX(Ezir Weizmann)
BR changes: none
Other changes: all .50cal MG’s tracers replaced with M20 API-T
Spitfires are amazing. However, their leathality can be improved with a better round.

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Yeah, that definitely irks me how the BRs aren’t in order.

Whats next, M1A2 Abrams before Sherman? /s

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By that argument then the T80U should be 11.0

Same as every tank?

T72B 1989 is the comparative tank.
The T80UD has

  • better reload 6.5 seconds rather than 7.1
  • better armour overall and composite layout as far as im aware as its the modern T80 layout not T80B layout
  • has better mobility e.g 21.7 HP/PT compared to the 18.9 on the T72B 1989.
  • has better optics AKA magnification it is miles better.
  • though has a slower turret traverse.

Overall the T80UD is better objectively than the next best TT MBT, in the T72 (1989)

Im sorry what?
You are gonna hve T55AMD1’s and AM1s again going up against the likes of leopard 2K, leopard 2av, and all the stupidly good IFVs , like dardos and what not.

they are good tanks, they do deserve to be moved up to not punch down on the likes of 7.7, however they are not 9.0 worthy tanks etiher by the current 9.0 standard…

They have no thermals, a pitiful dart with barely 130 angle pen (one of the worst darts actually)
they have mediocre mobility,
no survivability, nor effective armour for the BR at all.

also the M60A3 TTS which im currently spading, using it as a baseline as its a pretty poor 9.0

  • faster turret traverse
  • better optics
  • thermals.
  • substantially better dart.
  • 6.7 second reload aced T55AMD1 gets 7.5 seconds.
  • similar HP/PT thouhg is 2.3 lower
  • better survivability due to crew and ammo placement.

need i go on? thats also considered a bad 9.0. Compare it to say , XM803 , leopard 1a1 hell even compare it to the likes of the chieftain MK10!
Or shot kal gimel, which its similar to in mobility, has better armour but far worse fire power.
the T55AMD1 and AM1 should realistically not go to 9.0 without either:
A a better dart or B more decompression

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Im gonna comment the T-55AM debate as this: I am pretty sure the type 83 APDS(same stat as DM23) will go through their armor like a hot knife through butter. I would take ZTZ88A/B over them in most cases.

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Vehicle: Strela-10M2(USSR)
BR changes: none
Other changes: foldered under OSA-AKM
A way to ease up SPAA research. All soviet high tier SPAAs are adequate or exceptional at their BR but they definitely require a lot of RP.

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Vehicle: SIDAM 25
BR changes 8.3 to 8.0 GRB
Other changes: location switched with ZSU-23-4V(HU) and foldering the ZSU
SIDAMs are rather adequate with many previously explained reasons, low range, low ammo count and APDS, etc. Foldering the shilka under it should also make the grind easier.

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Im talking about the normal t55 that go up to 8.7

But for the amd1 that goes to 9.0 its also fair since u have aps in a br when there is alot of atgms
Also same as normal t55 u have great mobility and ur dart have no issue penning everything
The tts is good 9.0 but it cant move up due to its mobility yes its better but the gap is small

Vehicle: FV721 fox
BR changes: none, remain at 7.7
Other changes: foldered under FV107 scimitar
Fox with their slower turret slew are no longer scary and agile towards people who thinks Britain is rightfully bad in mid tier gameplay. Additionally, it and the scimitar - two very similar vehicles - can be foldered to ease the grind.

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J6K1 6.7 → 6.0/6.3

This plane was never 6.7 material to begin with, it was nothing but your average decent plane at it’s original BR of 6.0. Only exceptional things about it are armament and turn rate, it can’t do anything at 6.7 unless your enemy is just really bad.

I know gaijin doesn’t like drastic changes so i included 6.3 as well, better this than nothing, but i personally think it deserves to go back to where it originally was - 6.0. Especially with planes like the latest spit going down.

It just doesn’t cut it at 6.7.

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as they were designed to be easy to use

Game mode: ground realistic

vehicles 9040B 9040C and other wth that cannon, it sould reload he gun while using wit 3 rounds in a bracket one bracket at a time at a time. PLEASE ADD single shot/3 shot modes to CV9040’s so its easier to not panic fire your ammo rack empty

Where did you see that T-55A goes to 8.7 ?

16 HP/t and 50km/h top speed isn’t really great mobility for 8.3 nor 8.7.
Dart is also pretty trash as it’s a copy of their APDS round. DM13 fired from L7 gun is literally better than that thing.

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Mode: Naval Realistic

Vehicle: Scharnhorst

Change: 7.0 → 8.0

Reasoning: Scharnhorst is genuinely head and shoulders above any other ship in the game, it requires focus fire from an entire team to have the hope of taking it out.

Scharnhorst is absurdly powerful and can solo-carry a match. It should not be at a BR it is obviously overwhelming superior to supposed peers.

Naval is horribly compressed, with 6.7 being significantly worse than 7.0 ships. They should not ever have to fight something as monstrous as the Scharnhorst.

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Just realized that AM-1 is going up to 2 BR steps over the T-55A for having… better armor and a laser rangefinder.

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Chieftain Mk.10
GRB
9.0 → 9.3

Changes: Convert to Mk.11, (Add Thermals), Change shell to L23A1,

Reason: Currently it is the Trees only 9.0 tank, conversion to the Mark 11 standard would bring it up to par with 9.3s and give it a lineup where it fits as an equal, not as an inferior vehicle, it would be a welcome jump in capability and give us the ultimate variant of the Chieftain in game, while in addition the L23A1 shell will be a nice jump in abilities for uptiers, and help deal with opponents there, (aswell as addressing the concern that Standard L23 shell may be fake)

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Or just add the Cheiftain Mk.11 and keep the Mk.10. No reason to remove vehicles.

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