Seeing as im contemplating getting the UD ive been sitting looking into it comparatively to the 80B for the past 2 weeks.
And it is nothing short of a sidegrade to the 80B, its got 11.7 armour, great optics, its got decent mobility, its still got 21HP/PT not exactly a slow tank at all.
It loses thermals, has the same round and importantly has the 6.5 second reload which is phenomenal for the russian tanks at that BR
the T80UD is a 10.7 worthy tank.
Hardly, the T80B has nearly 2HP/PT less than both leopard2a4 and M1 abrams.
The T80UD is only 3.9 below the T80B, for far better optics, reload and armour?
how is that not a sidegrade ?
EDIT: just to clarify, as it sits with these random af BR changes, we should all now be calling for one thing, and not bickering over what moves 0.3 up or down.
And that is decompression, look at us all like muppets arguing over the slightest HP or minor differences for tanks to squeeze them into a higher bracket.
Get some proper decompression for ground and let the BRs breath again,
Vehicle: ZLT11
BR changes: none
Other changes: switch place with ZBD04A
Both vehicles are great and fine at their BR. However since the ZBD04A gets raised in BR, the ZLT11 sits below it while being a notch lower. They could be switched in place.
Vehicle: Spitfire LF Mk IX/Mk XIVe/Mk XVIII/FR Mk XIVe(BEL)/LF Mk IX(ISR)/LF Mk IX(Ezir Weizmann)
BR changes: none
Other changes: all .50cal MG’s tracers replaced with M20 API-T
Spitfires are amazing. However, their leathality can be improved with a better round.
better armour overall and composite layout as far as im aware as its the modern T80 layout not T80B layout
has better mobility e.g 21.7 HP/PT compared to the 18.9 on the T72B 1989.
has better optics AKA magnification it is miles better.
though has a slower turret traverse.
Overall the T80UD is better objectively than the next best TT MBT, in the T72 (1989)
Im sorry what?
You are gonna hve T55AMD1’s and AM1s again going up against the likes of leopard 2K, leopard 2av, and all the stupidly good IFVs , like dardos and what not.
they are good tanks, they do deserve to be moved up to not punch down on the likes of 7.7, however they are not 9.0 worthy tanks etiher by the current 9.0 standard…
They have no thermals, a pitiful dart with barely 130 angle pen (one of the worst darts actually)
they have mediocre mobility,
no survivability, nor effective armour for the BR at all.
also the M60A3 TTS which im currently spading, using it as a baseline as its a pretty poor 9.0
faster turret traverse
better optics
thermals.
substantially better dart.
6.7 second reload aced T55AMD1 gets 7.5 seconds.
similar HP/PT thouhg is 2.3 lower
better survivability due to crew and ammo placement.
need i go on? thats also considered a bad 9.0. Compare it to say , XM803 , leopard 1a1 hell even compare it to the likes of the chieftain MK10!
Or shot kal gimel, which its similar to in mobility, has better armour but far worse fire power.
the T55AMD1 and AM1 should realistically not go to 9.0 without either:
A a better dart or B more decompression
Im gonna comment the T-55AM debate as this: I am pretty sure the type 83 APDS(same stat as DM23) will go through their armor like a hot knife through butter. I would take ZTZ88A/B over them in most cases.
Vehicle: Strela-10M2(USSR)
BR changes: none
Other changes: foldered under OSA-AKM
A way to ease up SPAA research. All soviet high tier SPAAs are adequate or exceptional at their BR but they definitely require a lot of RP.
Vehicle: SIDAM 25
BR changes 8.3 to 8.0 GRB
Other changes: location switched with ZSU-23-4V(HU) and foldering the ZSU
SIDAMs are rather adequate with many previously explained reasons, low range, low ammo count and APDS, etc. Foldering the shilka under it should also make the grind easier.
But for the amd1 that goes to 9.0 its also fair since u have aps in a br when there is alot of atgms
Also same as normal t55 u have great mobility and ur dart have no issue penning everything
The tts is good 9.0 but it cant move up due to its mobility yes its better but the gap is small
Vehicle: FV721 fox
BR changes: none, remain at 7.7
Other changes: foldered under FV107 scimitar
Fox with their slower turret slew are no longer scary and agile towards people who thinks Britain is rightfully bad in mid tier gameplay. Additionally, it and the scimitar - two very similar vehicles - can be foldered to ease the grind.
This plane was never 6.7 material to begin with, it was nothing but your average decent plane at it’s original BR of 6.0. Only exceptional things about it are armament and turn rate, it can’t do anything at 6.7 unless your enemy is just really bad.
I know gaijin doesn’t like drastic changes so i included 6.3 as well, better this than nothing, but i personally think it deserves to go back to where it originally was - 6.0. Especially with planes like the latest spit going down.
vehicles 9040B 9040C and other wth that cannon, it sould reload he gun while using wit 3 rounds in a bracket one bracket at a time at a time. PLEASE ADD single shot/3 shot modes to CV9040’s so its easier to not panic fire your ammo rack empty
16 HP/t and 50km/h top speed isn’t really great mobility for 8.3 nor 8.7.
Dart is also pretty trash as it’s a copy of their APDS round. DM13 fired from L7 gun is literally better than that thing.
Reasoning: Scharnhorst is genuinely head and shoulders above any other ship in the game, it requires focus fire from an entire team to have the hope of taking it out.
Scharnhorst is absurdly powerful and can solo-carry a match. It should not be at a BR it is obviously overwhelming superior to supposed peers.
Naval is horribly compressed, with 6.7 being significantly worse than 7.0 ships. They should not ever have to fight something as monstrous as the Scharnhorst.