I’m sorry, but I have to disagree. Even as a French main, I have to admit, The AMX M4 is incredibly cracked at 6.7. Its mobility is one of the best despite being a medium tank (literally has 1k HP), its pen is ridiculously good after the buffs it got, its post-pen can easily one-shot vehicles despite being a solid shot, its armor is very adequate and its agility is incredible (turning, turret traverse, reverse speed). And while the reload rate is not as fast as later tanks, it’s still straight up faster than anyone else even on ace (which, let’s be honest, you won’t encounter much either), no idea how you can complain about that. In its current state, it outright felt criminal to use and I completely have to agree with it getting up to 7.0 (atleast now I can also pair it with the AuF1). There are other vehicles that deserve more complaining like the AMX-13, E.B.R. 1951 and Char 25T for examples, but atleast don’t complain about vehicles that straight up deserve it.
Mode: Naval realistic
Vehicle: HMS Renown
BR Change: lower BR needed, 7.0 → 6.7
Reason: Actually sister ship HMS Repulse is almost the same as Renown, and she is 6.7
The tts is also a br higher and with all its upgrade it pays with hella bad mobilitt and 0 armor against anything that is not heat
AB
M48GA2 G A2
8.3 to 8.0
It doesn’t have a stabilizer, it has little use and a low win ratio. The only good thing about it is the DM23.
Char 25T 8.0-7.3 GRB
At least it compares with object906, it is worse, no STAB, no HEAT, and worse penetration, and also compared to those 100mm/120mm guns at 7.7, it is also worse due to the penetration, armor, and mobility
Since Vextra was kept at 9.7 but given a worse shell to accompany the AMX-40 in a line-up, give it a better shell and move it up to 10.0 to keep it company there.
I mean its the same reason why the MiG-21SMT/MF is at 10.3 now. Even though they should be 10.7 bc they where perfectly fine at 10.7. Players dont know how to use such a strong kit and fail the result is that it will get a lower br. with the SMT and MF i have like 200 deaths - 900 Kills. Its insane how that plane at 10.3 is. same for J35XS should also be 10.7 again.
And like you said the J-7D was good at 11.0 i understand that they have it at 10.7 with that shit engine that overheats so fast but 11.0 would be fine for it.
i mean the J-7E is carried by the PL-5Bs at 11.3 otherwise it would be 10.7 or 11.0 so the J-7D is fine where it is.
Also i bought a Talisman for the J-7E bc it is so good.
8.7 Shot is a prime target to move up to 9.0, especially with some contemporaries doing the same.
I swear this community is hopeless. My comments about France getting punished and a similar one from someone else got more upvotes than any BR change suggestion.
GO UPVOTE THE SUGGESTIONS, PEOPLE.
Nope I am meaning german 665 UHT like i wrote and reasons why it should stay in 12.0 since french is better version of it.
And besides mistrals are way better compared on stingers on german version
Yeah literally 100% of f3h-2 I’ve ran into will just turn no matter what lose all their speed and then die cause of that. Probably why it was moved down in the first place. As far as I understand it it turns ok at top speed, has good/great acceleration for 9.0 and can carry 4 missiles. And the first aim9 isnt useless, especially having 4 of them is helpful. Even if its not a monster shouldn’t have moved down in the first place.
The 2a7 should be a higher BR.
The M1A2 is comparable to the 2a5
Which shock horror is 12.0
The T55AMD1 and AM1 are going to 9.0
The TTS had the same round as rhe 10.7 m1 abrams.
Has great optics.
Has thermal imaging.
Has a more survivable layout than the T55s as well.
The tanks armours are about equal bar the era or the horrible composites.
The T55A goijg to 8.7 is prettt ridiculous as is but its.not as bad as the others going to 9.0.
How are they equal to the likes of the ztz88A/B
The magachs.
Shot kals
Stv104.
The mobility once spaded isnt much different than a T55?
Too many folks on tbese topics dont wsnt actual balance though
Doesn’t deserve any higher than 10.3.
A beast at CQC, will get gulf war’d anywhere else.
In fact, 9.x tanks has faster target acquire speed and first shot advantage. Not saying this T-80 should be 9.X, but just giving context.
which is more a thing of how horrible the Abrams is pen wise at 10.7 than how good the TTS is pen wise at 9.0.
The t80UD is an 11.7 tank with mango rounds and a t72 enginr.
It stil has fantastic optics sin the thermals.
Good turret traverse, decent mobility as well.
Why you say its just for cqc is wild af, its a side grade to the 80B
Tbh while i do believe the M1 should get a better round, the m774 is still good enough for the BR, got over 215 angle pen on a 5 second reload and a monster fast platform.
Just got the m1kvt to bolster my 10.7 lineup n im near.in a 2.0 kd with it
It appears that way because grinding to top tier in another tank tree takes extreme amount of time.
If you’re exposed to only one side of the vehicle (fighting/fighting in), it’s hard to make a proper argument.
What ? Ive got over half the trees in game at top tier or 11.7 man, ive over 3000 hours on the game over nearly 6 years.
I want the game objectively balanced. So people have to use their brains a little.
For example not roll around in a type90 farming 10.3s
Or stomping abiut in a t80UD in 9.3 matches.
Oh shock the m1a1 clickbait, hc and m1a2 are stupidely good as well yet somehow sit lower than the arietes at 12.0 or the leopard 2a5 and subsequently a6.
Or how china has the ztz99s at 11.0 and they absolutely wreck house?
People on these topics just cry that their specific fav tank or plane should move down.