PD, not IOG. IOG is a different thing and pretty rare on SARH missiles.
turns out, it might not have that option.
Now wouldnt be the first time Gaijin made a slightly ahistorical change for the sake of balance and there is no reason why it couldnt use it, just, it was about 5 years before L23A1 entered service
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r2y2 to 7.7 with air spawn pls
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all mods, AB and RB
AMX-13 , using the shell of a 5.0 tank, going to 8.0 ?! it should never have never went past 6.3
AMX-M4, why is it going up ? every nation in that BR has AP shells doing similar or better than france !
AMX-40, why is going up ? the tank at 10.0 are all statisticly better in armore and performance than the french one.
AMX-13 (FL-11) a tank using 3.3 shell being at 4.3 ? why, because the germans in front cant shoot back at me ? i should never go above 3.3/3.7
E.B.R. (1951), a tank using 3.3 shells, being at 5.3 and can do nothing… i should never go above 3.3/3.7
E.B.R. (1954), why is it at 6.7 with 5.0 shells ? i hardly do anything against tanks of that match making, even less against 7.7 tanks, its a 5.7 tank MAX, never above it
E.B.R. (1963), its bad at its BR due to how mobility works, cant climb, cant accelrate, bad offroad performance yet it was built to be offroad, 7.3 or 7.0 until the performance is fixed would be nice
AMX-50 (TO90/930), this tank should be 7.7, it has no place at 8.0, overkill and cant compete againt all the enemy armore , APFSDS, stabilizers and others unbalanced things
ITO90M aint a top tier AA now, it cant track and shoot that well anymore, i used to do 1000 kills in 3 month, now i cant even get 300 in 1 year, missiles flight physics has changed to unrealistics du to how missile works, and they wanted to do as “real” performance, but this AA has as 12km kill range to intercept anything that gets in it, be it missile or aerial vehicles, yet cant neither do both… it cant even kill/track anything past 5km…the missiles ruberbands like crazy…
edit : AMX-13 DCA 40, why is it at 5.0 ? when the swedish one is litraly at 4.7, it has same performances, and exactly same penetration of shells, either lower it, or upBR the sweedish one
This is reducilouse at this point, the reason to france to go un BR is what ? because it only has AP, yet all other nation has similar shells but never use it ? a punishement for france because other nation dont use AP shells when they could ?!
atm the game is only made for one sort of vehicle… medium tanks, why ?
if you have armore, BR UP
if you have mobility, BR UP
if you have fast reload BR UP
if you have weels, BR UP
if you have a turret on weels, BR UP
IF YOU ARE FRENCH , BR UP
they even removed flanking routs so you cant even flak to get shots by outplaying the enemies
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The sabra, the only good Israel’s tank, at 10.0
If u hate israel that much gaijin why add them into the game at all??
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Vehicle: Netz & Netz (Mod)
Gamemode: Air Simulator
BR Change: 13.0 ----> 12.7
Reason: The Netz and its premium equivalent have an almost identical performance to the US F-16A which is currently at 12.7, with the only real difference being the Python-3 which whilst stronger in some respects to the Aim-9L, is not an IRCCM missile and so this leaves the Netz far weaker than other equivalents such as the Belgium F-16A or Gripen A that both have Aim-9Ms. Lowering both to 12.7 would be far fairer, especially with how compressed 13.0 is already.
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Im aware it technically shouldn’t which sucks but realistically mate it being 10.0 it needs a better round.
Or are gaijin now saying L23 a 192 angle pen round is sufficient at 10.0? Where russia at 9.7 gets 3bm42
Germany the dm23 on tbe leo2k
France the dm13 equivalent
Ans ofc the sabra with the meat wagon of a round it has.
Why is the shir two limited to the L23?
I completely agree
L23 just sucks in the full uptiers and is rough to use it in my usual 10.3 line-up with the Chally Mk2 as my main MBT backup
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To be honest, before we had the leo2a4 and such move to 10.7 I used to try use it on the khalid, the L23 round seriously is long in the tooth versus these vehicles, like the Abrams, Leo2a4, T80B etc Its just a shame as usual.
Harrier GR. 1, ARB/ GRB: 9.7 → 9.3.
This plane is significantly worse than the US, Thai and British TT versions at the exact same BR. Having worse missiles, worse flight performance and no countermeasures warrants this vehicle moving down one BR step, as the SRAAMs are both unreliable and extremely short range, drastically reducing their efficacy despite their strength on paper.
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Such a shame they wont fix them
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Yeah…
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Can’t pretend that Gaijin reads or cares about this thread in the slightest, but i find it pretty ridiculous that the T-64A is considered equivalent to T-72A, being essentially the same vehicles aside from T-72A having better armour, turret traverse and a laser rangefinder
Don’t personally see a problem with the T-64A going to 9.0 as is, but even still i believe it fitting to remove 3BM22 if necessary to allow it to drop down in BR.
Mode: Air Simulator
Aircraft: Mirage 2000C-S4
Change: 12.3->12.0
Reasoning: The generally low missile count of 2 Radar missiles and 2 IR guided ones combined with the 16 Flares and 18 Chaff make this plane extremely difficult to play as at 12.3 you only see uptiers to at least 12.7 and when going up against ARH slingers (F-14A, F-14A IRIAF) the dumping of chaff to fool the missiles is impossible as you would run out of chaff before leaving the square of the Airfield. At 12.0 the plane would still face the Tomcats in certain brackets but they are not included in the “best case scenario” brackets.
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Good thing Israeli AH is one of the best helicopters in the game.
I’ve used Spikes and found them pretty good against lighter vehicles, which all AAs are.
Given both the lack of a 12.3 bracket and the fact the Mirage F1C is 11.7 Yeah, that actually sounds reasonably fair
Yea no
No u didnt u maybe used the ground version
U dont play any helis at all ur opinion isnt valid
Also as cas u need to kill mbts too and the spikes are terrible aginst them
No.
Just no. No more missile attackers need to populate this BR. It’s already atrocious to play because of how many aircraft there are with bad flight performance and OP missiles.
All R2Y2s 8.0 → 7.7
These planes all deserve lower BRs and since they are being removed and soon will be forgotten about, it’s a great moment to bring them all down in BR to the place they deserve to be in
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Please do tell how is the ground version better than heli one ?