cant keep a playstation account on xbox, so thats on them
quite ironic the russian main is complaining about the russian tanks finally moving up in BR after like 2 years
Centurion Action X
Acutal Battlerating : 7.7 || Battlerating proposal : 7.3
Why : Unloved Premium Centurion with weaker turret armor, not reliable. F4202 is 7.3 with the turret or mostly similar.
Give it some love by reducing its battlerating or fix the volometric armor.
Thank you.
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You yourself have barely 100 battles with KV-1E though, so it’s not like you have that much experience in it either.
KV-1E/B’s strenght very much depends on matchmaking, it’s not 4.7 Jumbo levels of overpowered and can be dealt with, but by no means is balanced either. It’s more so extremely annoying to face and unhealthy for the game rather than overpowered. It is a prime example of vehicle that can only be actually balanced with proper BR decompression.
Right now, without decomopression it’s a question of whether you leave it at 4.0 and let it continue being nuisance for everyone else, or throw it into 4.3 and make it share the fate of KV-1 ZiS, IS-4M, IS-6, 76 jumbo and alike.
I’d say for the health of the game, it should go up. Will it be bad? Probably, but it’s better for this one single vehicle be bad, than entire BR bracket it sits in to be miserable. I don’t impy it is impossible to fight off, but most certainly you will have harder time destroying it than it will have destroying you. And to be perfectly honest that is generally not a type of vehicle you want to have in 4.0 BR range full of newbies who barely start the game.
Is it hypocritical to say by me after playing like 700 battles with it? Probably, but SL won’t print itself. As long as it’s there i am going to use it, but if i were gaijin i would make it 4.3 long ago
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good idea, but the action X is just an FV4202 turret on a Centurion Mk 3 hull, the mobility difference is going to keep it at 7.7, as well as the better reload rate
to be fair the L-11 cant even pen the KV-1E despite being a .3 br difference
An mg port that usually eats rounds lol
Complaining? No. Showing you why it makes no sense? Yes.
F-4F (Early) is at 10.7 with: no guided air to ground weapons. no flares or chaff. it should be lowered in BR.
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How far do you want the 2S38 to get placed? 11.0? Seems like you guys just want it to get Bmp2m’ified as in getting pushed up higher and higher until its “okay” instead of “good”
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its just coincidence theres 5 prems to make a lineup at that br
I have more battles in game than you do…
I don’t play one endless tank lol
Making it 4.3 with no gun improvement makes it pointless. It won’t be able to kill nearly any 5.3 let alone it has troubles with 5.0s as is.
I think it is well balanced where it stands, it’s not TT, and is not a common tank.
It won’t help the games health for this single tank to go up. The Pz. IV imo is better.
How about we admit that we both have biases.
In what way?
You have around 600ish more RB battles than i do overall. Don’t pretend like it changes anything. When it comes to KV-1E itself i have 6 times more battles than you with about the same WR and KD. I also have additional hundred or so battles in the german variant.
Which is exactly what i mentioned in my message, you missed the point entirely. I doubt this tank will be good on 4.3, but a harsh truth is that it doesn’t need to be. It won’t be useless by any means and it will give some breathing room to everything else in it’s BR.
It’s not balanced and will never be without proper BR decompression. It will either be on the too strong or too weak side. And no, this tank is not uncommon by any means. You could argue that the German version is quite uncommon (but still i meet it at least once per each longer 4.0 session), but the Russian version is all over the place. Even if it’s not at sale, you meet at least one in nearly every game and when it’s actually in store it’s so incredibly opressive there is no point in even entering the queue in this BR in anything else than M44, flakbus or IKV 103.
You would be surprised. Whether Pz IV is better is very, very arguable, but leaving that aside, you again seem to forget that 4.0 is a low BR full of new players. KV-1E is exactly the type of vehicle you don’t want in such environment. It’s the prime example of sealclubber vehicle.
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I do have an bias, it’s the bias of fairness, and being equal
And test what can / cannot kill a kv1e
Hmm…, 5.7 with powerful cannon can’t kill a 4.7 CrAzY
Anything with 100 pen or so can kill the KV-1E. But it’s not the point, anything is killable. It’s about the fact that you have to pixel snipe him, and he doesn’t. It’s an unhealthy tank, that deserves to be brough up in BR to improve the overall gameplay experience of this entire BR range.
The better the player, the overall worse will be his opinion about this vehicle, since it relies on getting good matchmaking and bad enemies. But it sadly happens to be in a BR that although it’s arguable doesn’t get full uptiered all that often (the most common matchmaking is 4.7 which is good enough for it to bully everything) and is full of new players which generally have absolutely no idea on how to deal with it
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I agree. Either that or nerf it’s aim or flight model. This company never ceases to amaze me with their lack of common sense when introduce a round, that in the right hands can just one shot everything on the map.
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The breech is massive no? It’s not a pixel? Lower plate, etc.
Also I see 4.7 or 4.3 almost always em when I play my KV-1E, nothing else it would seem, rarely an 5.0 and rarely any 4.0 matches
We will have to agree to disagree. Because there are far more egregious examples.
Go look at that video I just posted…
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Lower plate isn’t a weakspot unless you drive straight at the enemy like an idiot. And breech isn’t something i would call a reliable weakspot either. It has a lot of angled parts and loves to trigger volumetric. Not to mention you can just slap bushes on it and you are nearly guaranteed for the enemy to screw up at least their first shot or two until the bushes fall off.
We don’t live in a perfect world and that should be reflected in balancing. Some vehicles even if technically not overpowered deserve to be brought up just to improve the gameplay experience. This is what happened to IS-6, Jumbo, KV-1 ZiS and KV-220.
And let’s be real KV-1E does statistically overperform. Don’t try to pretend like it will be useless at 4.3 in every single game played. If you expect your heavy tank to perform in full uptier just as well as it does in other games, your expectations are wrong.
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