i prefer shir 2 fire power, 5s reload is much stronger than the extra pen.
both turrets tank 450mm pen apfsds to the cheeks easily.
3bm42 is infinetly better than l23a1, id take that over the reload any day. in a vacuum sure the turret armor is kind of comparable, except the t64 is small and has k1. hull armor is garbage on the 4030. mobility is better but its not good. t64b is much better in practice.
it is worse just for you lol. You don’t have experience with even worse 13.0s.
The reverse speed, gun depression, and long reload can get you killed countless of times in the T-64B.
Pantsir can actually hit something further away than 5km.
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ok then. lets point them out. which 13.0s are worse?
you do realize the shir 2 is just a 10.3 challenger mk.2 but with 15% less pen at 60 degrees and no gen 1 thermals.
how delusional can man really be?
the great firepower, and great armor save you just as much.
I already had this conversation with another guy. Just check my activity.
because challenger mk 2 is very good amirite?
yes it is.
infact i have a 7.6 kd with it.
k.d is not a metric to judge the perfomance of a vehicle lol.
it is one of the metrics
a very small irrelevant metric, its a measure of skill, not vehicle perfomance
The great armour can only help you so much…
The drivers port / LFP aren’t exactly the easiest to hit, but when you’re reloading, they can take their sweet time to kill you.
That’s why being mobile and relying on physical cover (whether it be a hill or building) is generally more Meta in a lot of cases.
And the fact that the Shir 2 has good turret armour, great reverse speed, reload, and gun depression makes it all the better.
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Why is 2S6 still 10.7?? Especially when compared to other spaa around it that also don’t have amazing guns…
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it is actually. but one guys K/D isn’t all there is to it. overall K/D id say is more valuable than winrate to see how good a vehicle is. some nations and vehicles get screwed over by the teams they have to carry giving a good K/D but awful winrate.
Gaijin cares more for winrate for now I should add. which is stupid
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The tkx(p) has very dense armor in the front in small spots while the type 90 has good coverage but less thickness. The only one that can tank dm33 to the armored spots consistently are the tkx(p), which has very little coverage. Both of these tanks have like 30-40 mm of protection in any other place. The pt16 is 30-40 mm all around, so I dont see why a few armored spots makes it a br increase of 1. I understand the 0.7 that its currently at, but 11.7 is a whole other environment.
neither k.d nor winrate tell you anything about a vehicle’s perfomance
Because it’s mid at best ?
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