No way. You must not have played this machine, it bleeds it’s speed like no tomorrow on even the most careful maneuver. It has no energy retention whatsoever and the gun is extremely difficult to use. The 6 missiles is the only thing that makes this machine worthwhile.
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learn your weakspots
Ehm gaijin sir, i think you missed the amx50 to930
Its still 8.0 (its overtiered)
Pls fix, thx mwah <3
Type 81 (C)
Stays at 11.3
It is not comparable to 11.7 spaas like the adats, it has no radar, only 4 ready missiles that depend on a lock before being able to launch, lock range is under 6km IF it ever locks, it has no armament to attack ground units
It should not be moved up again.
TKX (P)
Either leave it at 11.3 as it is or give it the type 10 round and put it at 12.0
It makes no sense to put it at 11.7 where it doesnt have a line up, just to mess up the 11.3 lineup or to take it to 12.0 anyways.
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AMX 50 at 7.7 is fine.
Yeah these BR changes are breaking Multiple preset line-ups of mine. I’m not thrilled.
Mode: Ground Realistic Battles
Vehicle: Sherman II (Great Britain)
BR Change: 3.7> 3.3
Reasoning:
It is identical to the M4A1 at 3.3 except that it has 18 mm more roof armour on some areas of the hull, and access to an ahistorical American late-war APCR round. Remove the APCR and bring it back to 3.3 like every other M4A1 (75) in the game.
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Once again. You pretend that we can’t raise the br of both genius
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In some ways. I never said that they were better, just that they have significant advantages over the maus.
I’d also like to add that the Maus isn’t dominating matches to an insane degree.
No???
Only move it to 10.3 if it gets it’s historical PL-5Bs.
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Ground RB
M1A1 HC: 11.7 → 12.0
This vehicle (and it’s premium brother) has all features that a 12.0 MBT has. It has pretty good turret armor, paired with a 5s reload speed and M829A2. When compared to some 12.0 vehicles like most CR2s, Arietes and Merkavas, it only lacks in quality of it’s thermals.
It’s best counterpart would be 2A5 and that thing is comfortably sitting at 12.0 for months.
ARL better pen at low angles & better frontal armor, but the high angle performance of the rounds are suprisingly similar and kv-1e armor is much superior to the ARL’s if both tanks are angled correctly.
you cant angle the arl almost at all, its 50mm side armor.
tldr: kv-1e is much better in a good players hands than the ARL. noobs who dont angle and dont know weakspots may have differing opinions.
Ground RB
Centauro I 120: 11.7 → 11.3
This vehicle in it’s current state is simply not good enough for 11.7 as it offers nothing unique from Italy’s MBTs. It has awful HP/t, optics are mid and gun depression/handling isn’t great either. It’s easily beaten by CV 90120 which sits at the same BR.
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Ground RB
IS-2 (1944): 6.7 → 6.3
This vehicle has no business being at the same BR as Tiger II (H).
Yes, it has a good round but godawful reload speed, gun handling and gun depression more than make up for it. It also has worse armor than the aforementioned Tiger.
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as your reason,Mirage 3C,Mirage 5f,Super Etendard,Shahak,F-105D,Juguar,Su-17etc.both worthless
i actually think it should go up. type 81 should not be 1.3 br higher than the strela.
2s6 and pantsir should also go up.
said 4 are the only scary antiairs at 9.3-12.0. pantsir should have its own special br at 12.3 for obvious reasons
2S6 is far cry from being scary.
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Have any of you actually played your own game? Or are you just using AI to complete this project? Why are T55AMD and T62M1 in RB9.0? Why is the AMX40 the same as the Leopard 2K in RB10.0? Why not stretch the compartment and weaken a vehicle? In the case of the same RB, there will be two cars that are more or less the same, but the performance gap is huge, is it not your problem?😂
I think this adjustment is a complete mistake, and we should continue to stretch the overall room allocation. In order to balance the game and create vehicles that are unique in a particular room, rather than trying to weaken certain vehicles with stats.
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“Ah yes, let’s once again punish French and British players because they are experienced players playing niche nations.”
AMX-13, AMX-M4 and especially AMX-40 should NOT go any higer than where they are, EVER. AMX-40 has no survivability, no special ammo, it’s 20mm although useful on paper is actually useless in practice because it can’t penetrate anything despite the stats. The only thing that tank has is mobility and it already doesn’t even matter in a full uptier which it always goes to. Plus it will have no line up now and will be entirely useless just like the 2A4 in French tree.
Let’s not forget about FV4030/3? This is again a tank with only a single thing going for it which is turret armour. It’s extremely slow, cannot be used on flat maps because it will die to even 30mm cannons thanks to that lower plate, cannot brawl because upper plate is also not good. The maps are already bad for British tanks and now this.
And finally Wyvern which used to be 3,7 and now going to 4,7. This is an attacker plane which can either carry 3 bombs or 1 bomb with 2 rockets and that’s literally it. It doesn’t have any crazy cannons nor agility like Yak9k which has been destroying entire teams on it’s own even though it’s a fighter. Do you see any changes on that plane? Nope it’s still sitting at 4,0 being the best CAS plane at least until we reach Alpha Jet levels.
With how senseless these changes are there is nothing you can say that would make me believe these are not deliberate hate nerfs.
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9.3 t72a/m1 are undertiered and should go up to 9.7 for now.
turms-t is fine where it is, but its funny how much its being overshadowed by the t-80ud being broken at 10.3.