No?
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Yeah the M4A3s mobility makes a huge difference. Whenever I played the M4A2 in an uptier I struggled way harder then a M4A3, simply because I couldn’t get into positions fast enough.
The M4A2 mobility is the same or worse then other tanks (medium/heavy) at the BR but having better mobility then the enemy makes a big difference in survivability and getting kills.
Gaijin… for the love of God please… you FORGOT the Shenyang F5 at 9.3 again. PLEASE its not supersonic and it has the worst missiles at that BR.
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MiG-15bis ISh which is almost same as MiG-15bis will have same BR with Me 262 C-2b
Hunter F.1 is still 8.7 even CL-13A and F-2 Sabre, MiG-17 will down to 8.7?
Lim-5P/MiG-17PF as well even it is literally better MiG-17???
What the hell lmao
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So now we have 2 spaag at 5.7. As useful as competing against someone who doesn’t have legs.
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It is, but I’ve had no issues with it at higher BRs. My only comment is that it’s gun seems to be much more effective than the Warriors? No idea why, but I have more confident that it will do damage unlike when I used the Warriors where it seemed to do nothing but just punch holes through things.
It’s great they rope us into getting it through the Battle Pass, and then decide it needs to be pushed to a BR where it can barely cope, and in an up tier is useless.
also these popular premiums have a lot of new players that lower stats for them, its why stuff like it and the turm 3 stay put
Edit: forgot the swedish SAV and k9 vidar too, honestly quite incredible those arent even getting moved up either
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huh m18 going to 6.0? for what? from what I recall the m18 just got buffed very recently, how can there be enough data already to justify an uptier?
also i really don’t think its much of an upgrade at all, sure engine is better but its already better than pretty much anything else that tier so no difference whatsoever. imo 6.0 is way too unjust
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I don’t approve. But if they want to do it ok. Just don’t do as the R3 T20
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That take for the strv 103s tells me youve got no clue what your talking about bud. The majority of your list jas some very bad takes but some good ones too. I do hope youll send a video of the strv 103’s aiming like a normal tank with no shaking since you’ve come to the conclusion that they fixed hullaim(hint: no its still broken)
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I’ve commented elsewhere about why I think the proposed changes to the Sabres & MiG-15/17s are a bad idea.
A few unrelated changes I recommend considering for this patch:
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F-104C - Add 2 additional AIM-9B on a center-line rack (historically accurate from Vietnam era) for a total of 4x AIM-9B. Then move it to 9.7.
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R2Y2s - drop all of them to 7.7. After the Type 5 cannon muzzle velocity was nerfed to be more historically accurate, these planes are not competitive at 8.0. They would not be OP at 7.7.
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Me 262s - Drop the A-1a to 6.7. Drop the C-1a to 7.0. drop the C-2b to 7.7. These are all very overtiered relative to their performance. The stats are–almost certainly–balanced out by more experienced players using inferior airframes to a fuller advantage. If the proposed Sabre/MiG-15/MiG-17 changes are implemented against the judgment of the players, the Me 262s will become completely impotent.
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And there’s the core of the problem. You, like many others, only compares vehicles to their max uptier counterparts while neglecting the downtier vehicles they primarily face. By doing so, you can argue for a lower BR and for BR compression.
The Firefly is an incredible and undertiered vehicle, with better firepower than similar vehicles a full 1.0 above it, even with minor weaknesses in mobility. It deserves at least a simple .3 BR increase, as it currently dominates and bullies 3.7, 4.0, and 4.3, and handles up to 6.3 well in my experience.
Or they can fix SRAAM
They should have 1.8km range, not 800m.
They should have all-aspect, or at the very least, very decent side aspect ability
They should actually work within 500m of the target, but dont due to TVC issues
All of these have been bug reported and passed to the devs. SRAAM overhaul was rumoured more than a year ago, but nothing since.
I personally like SRAAM, and really want more aircraft with them, like a BAE Hawk. But they are just underperforming and combined with compression, they see aircraft they should not be seeing, especially those with all-aspect missiles.
try VIFFing. Angling the vector of the thrust to give better turn. I do think it needs to be lower for now, but less due to the SRAAM or flight performance and more due to the lack of CMs
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That’s just a lie. I outright said after that very quote that the Fireflies in a downtier are nothing incredible.
Edit: Since you edited your comment with a new paragraph, I’ll edit mine as well, with a simple answer: The Fireflies do not dominate or bully any of the BRs you mentioned.
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Add AH-1W swapping places with A-129 and G-Lynx, it only gets maximum 2xAIM-9L that REPLACE the AGM-114s, which the A-129 and G-lynx can carry along with missiles…
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What about the promised spall liners in the Ariete a few weeks back. And what ever happened to the massive bug report regarding the Arietes armor that was accepted but the only thing that happened is that our armor wasn’t fixed and we became 3 tons heavier for no reason. The arietes are pure pain at top tier, do you really think the Ariete amv is equal in power to the leopard 2a7. The leopard 2a7 has armor, great firepower, spall liners, and many more things that the Ariete doesn’t while being at the same br. Please just compare the vehicles, the ariete has nothing better then the other mbt’s it has zero armor, mediocre firepower, and terrible mobility now. And that makes it so new players don’t think about grinding Italy because they look at the top tier tanks and they realize they are so bad, please just look over the vehicles and realize how bad the ariete is at its current br. And just because the win rates might be acceptable, the reason for that is because the only people who play Italy are skilled players and no average players play Italy because their tanks are so bad. Please just look it over-and realize how bad the ariete is compared to the other mbt’s at that br.
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MiG-17PF is same plane as Lim-5P btw
Not even possibly. M900 would make it a better IPM1 and should mean an instant BR increase to 11.3.
It was just promised to the wind.
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I know. Listing them seperately was intentional because they have different names.