Youre still talking about warthunder right? :p
there is only one pantsir at 12.0 tho
Fm only matters if you are getting 1 vs 1s consistanly. Its hard going high since you have 0 missile that can pressure planes at longer range at same br. It would stomp f 16s whit aim 9m or magic 2s way less than its currently getting stomped by all fox 3 and long range fox 1 spam. Su 33 also has double your missile count. lmfao
No, I’m talking about chessboxing
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PGZ04A
9.3 → 10.3
Same issue as ZSU-23-4M4. IRCCM missiles facing 8.3s, and the added benefit of autocannons with radar.
Again, stingers are trivial to dodge, have no range, and struggle locking at long range. The only reason it isnt at the same br as the shilka with iglas is because of the hydra rockets that make it good as a rat tank. Otherwise its just the same combo of mid manpads missiles + okay autocannon + autotracking. Also, unlike both the shilka and ozelot, it has no search radar or irst.
you are missing the point ^^
and no even half your stock countermeasure count.
fm matters in almost every scenario, defending against missiles, getting around the map, getting good missile launch conditions.
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Facts. The spitfire at 7.0 will now face full lobbies of jets that will out pace/ energy// both. Which means the spit flys around getting boomed and zoomed all game. Same goes for the lower BR props just to lesser extent. Dont turn with them and they lose
7.0 is one of the worst BRs anyway. Always uptier, massive performance in-balance thats only matched at fox1 to fox3 Brs
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Is there a single aa you find balanced or bad?
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The Panzer 4 really aren’t op
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Even worse missiles than the ozelot and can be killed by any coax mg in the game. And no search IRST. If anything it should go down.
True. Some vehicles br. Placement aren’t even make sense in the first place. Like who in the right mind think that the bmpt with top tier era and probably more survivability than t90m should ever be 10.somthing br in the first place??? 😂
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“Just dodge all their attacks” doesn’t really work when WW2 and Korean war planes are being stacked against 1980s SAMs.
Most WW2 SPAA are decently balanced.
Bruh, why is Gaijin trying to send Spitfire Mk.24 to 7.0 again?
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Mirage 4000
13.0 → 12.7 (Air RB)
Compared to any other 13.0s this aircraft is incredibly limited in anything other than WVR engagements. Su-33/27 and Tomcats are miles better than the 4000 and currently it does not belong to 13.0
Su-30 (All premiums)
13.3 → 13.7
Long overdue. They do not belong to 13.3 with their current air to air missiles, especially MKK with PL-12s.
Mirage 2000C-S4 also either needs to go down to 12.0 as well or the respective missing modifications are given.
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7.0 definitely, but it comes close with the ZSU-23-4M2.
But, of course, ZSU-23-4M2 has no armour, no smoke grenades, and can’t kill tanks so…
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Same issue as the shilka. Its missiles are even easier to dodge than stingers, have even worse range, and struggle with locking at range. Its radar is at least okay though.
8 Magic 2s do not belong at 12.7.
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