saying the fm of the 29M is horrible when SMT exist is crazy
Doesnt resolve that the armor is what keeps it alive more than the crew
They have the same FM with different engines. 29M just has more thrust. FM≠Engine
*Lifts rock and looks underneath, BMPT is not at top BR yet, its armour is still fake, its ammunition is still fake/doesn’t explode
I guess there will still be an entire BR range unplayable including the “used to be very fun” 10.7
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6 extremely mediocre missiles (4 if you want any reasonable number of chaff) on a dated airframe with a weak engine vs supermaneuverable AESA equipped aircraft with 12 missiles and extremely powerful radars
Idk man
It objectively isn’t in this current state
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Arguably theyre behind the ariete and leclerc, which are both the exact same with arguably more protection on the ariete and the leclerc needing zero spading for the 5s reload
A solid 45% wr doesnt seem overpowered at all, not to mention how the lineup is accompanied with the CRAPDATS and the worse version of the 2S38, not to mention the CAS being non existant. Balance needs to take lineup into account, not individual vehicles.
Again, CAS being nonexistant, SPAA being one of the worst, if not the worst, for its BR, fighting BMPTs, and the abrams being the only thing in the lineup, which is just a fatter stryker
Im not gonna lie, i sadly think its straight up the worst jet at top tier right now, it cant compete in any way whatsoever against EF2Ks and SM2s, and the oversized JDAM doesnt save it lol
worse than J-15T
abrams? worse than leclerc and ariete? What is this bs
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War thunder players can have the best lineup in the game and still have crap wr, just look at German 6.7
WR doesn’t mean too much, unless it’s absurdly high (like BMPT at 10.7)
M1A2s are very much comparable if not better than 2A5 and 2A6
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How did you come to such conclusion?
Vehicle X: 30.000.000 times played. K/D 1.0.
Gaijin: As it should be
Same vehicle in another tech tree: 10.000 times played. K/D 2.0
Gaijin: OVERPERFORMING!! BR increased by 0.3/0.7!!!
List of ammunition sweden currently lacks that should be added and doesent warrant a BR change.
Ikv 103 > Slpgr m/43 (APHEBC) (57~ mm Pen)
Pbv 302 BILL > slbrhpgr 95 (High Explosive Incendiary Tracer shell with Armor Piercing core) (50~ mm pen)
Pvlvv fm/42 slbrandsgr m/ 51 (Swedish minengeschoss)
And since i am karnitin75
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A Battle Rating Spread Of .7 Maximum. No More Fussing Around With Annual Battle Rating Changes Every Month.
Reason: Common Sense.
Que Times Dont Matter Anymore Because This Game Has Been Growing Exponentially Since Update “New Power” Came Out. So That Is Not An Excuse Anymore
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F-104G/S/TAF - ARB
they need to reconsider their BR, the suggestion of user @Kumiko_Senpai seems reasonable, in any case the plane has very poor maneuverability and quite average armament, judging by the statistics and the ratings of other players F-104G/S/TAF etc. need some attention.
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all three of the vehicles can be penned by shooting any point on the vehicle. The leclerc has such compact internals that its basically a one shot, however the 5s reload is stock, and doesnt require millions of SL and even GE
ariete gets the same reload as the abrams with a better shell. The crew comparetment is much more empty, the turret basket is infinitely smaller making it much more survivable, and the tank also has spall liners all around
the abrams has the massive turret basket making every. single. shot. completely disable the FCS, and any hull shot is guaranteed to also immobilize it, making it into a brick, while the other two can return fire
all you can say the abrams has in favor is the turret cheeks which unless youre miles away and facing directly towards your enemy (which he can one shot you through the breach, roof, ring, hull, etc), and he take such a poor potshot that he hits the cheek, any shell thats at a similar level to DM53 or M82A2, still has a chance to pen them
honestly i never bother to even look at the J15T that much but having 12 missiles seems much better than 6 and on a better airframe, albeit the 48 CMs with no pods is miserable in the survivability aspect
Wait what?
In what possible way is the Ariete better than the Abrams?
The only possible advantage I can think of is that the Ariete is smaller than the Abrams.
Armour, firepower, even top speed (when not using the addon armour) , the Abrams is better.
cant really comment too well on the Leclerc, but from what I do understand. they are pretty average at the moment, okay tanks. But not amazing
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survivability, fairpower, and size
The Ariete is DM53 L/44. This has less pen than the A2 shells on the M1A2s.
DM53 L/44
M829A2:
Its not much, but technically the M1A2 has the better firepower
DM53 L/55 for comparison
Its only DM53 L/55 that has better pen and those are all 6 second reloads, even those that really shouldnt be like the CR3TD
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