Buk is not good. I can see that you don’t play the Soviet tree. The buk radar scans extremely slow and the buk launches are the only ones that cannot fire missile straight up. The radar lock will also break the moment something like a tree branch happens to get in the way. IRIS is still the best of the new SPAAs added.
A patriot battery would be way better than buk and almost all of the new SPAA additions
Yes sure. Let me tell you that Russian bias is just a meme. Shocking, right?
Cas isnt dominating at all
Mi 28 yes
Just yesterday on Sweden map. Another Mi-28 went up and killed most of the team including my Iris T. Despite I shot several missiles. They all turned away from the chopper, looked hilarious. Some were so close to hit, but turned into the sky 1 sec before impact. Despite permanent radar contact and supposed datalink?
Germany unplayable. Need already a new SAM. Iris didn’t even survived 2 patch cycles. Total garbage now. Patriot is needed.
(All this while Ru has a Mach 5 SAM with 70km range, stand alone launch vehicles, killing everything).
Lol and patriot radar doesnt even have 360° degree coverage, its just AESA radar that can see 120° degrees, only the newest patriot radar has 360° coverage, which I doubt gaijin will add
it you think thats bad you clearly havent tried the CLAWS radar
Judging how they jumped for the Buk-3m over any of the older versions, it is possible. Not likely, but possible.
fun fact, the claws radar only has one beam but 2 show up on the radar screen.
You can see in the replays.
It’s also a 1995 radar system compared to the BUK-M3 and the IRS-T which have 2010+ radars.
Patriot would be fine in the game because range is completely irrelevant in GRB, WT does not even have DCS sized maps, most don’t even exceed 20x20 km in ground (Vietnam is barely 18x18 km), it would be problematic in something like ARB or SIM EC but ground battles? It should get the green light, BUK is allowed with a Mach 5 missile in GRB, so why not also Patriot? At least America should get it, CLAWS is just too weak.
SLM is fine as long they give it LDRICM resistance and increase the IIR lock range back to 10 km, (it should be 20 km but whatever, balance, maps too small for that)
Thats the issue, just another case where two Mi28 with Lmur dismantled the whole team including Iris T. You just can’t do anything vs. the most common air threat. Everyone spamming DIRCM helis. Shoting volley, land, reloading, another volley, land, reload…its just disgusting gameplay. All this while beeing immune to the top tier SPAA of Ger.
Also somehow inable to shot down jets around 20km… I don’t know when Iris gets anemic. Still testing. But it appears it won’t hit actively piloted aircraft above 12km or something.
Well you’re wrong so there’s that
I have found the AN/MPQ-64 Sentinel to not be a great radar in terms of tracking, nor are the guidance systems on the Aim 9x Block 2 or Aim 120 C7. The missiles are extremely easy to notch or counter compared to other SAM system say the IRIS-T or BUK-M3.
Instead of giving the US the NASAMS which isn’t even used in the United States or really produced domestically for the US, the PATRIOT system should’ve been given… or even supplement lower SPAA tiers with things like the AN/TWQ-1 Avenger. Gaijin could’ve found ways to balance out the Patriot if it was deemed too overpowered as well, similar to how they balanced out the IRIS-T by modifying some factors of the missile.
Kinda disappointed that US was yet again not allowed to be supplemented with modern equipment while updates continue to bring modern equipment to other countries.
Yeah it’s because it’s the first gen radar from 1995 serving as a detection system for missiles from 2000’s when there are plenty of newer radar systems that could have been added.
There are updates to the AN/MPQ-64 that would make the AA worth being in top tier. Remove the AIM-9x and it’s such a worse system.
You can confirm that it’s the first generation via the xray on the CLAWS and NASAMS
Op has a point. RUS and IT/FRA have systems which cover all the ground RB map sizes. Ru even a hypersonic mach 5 SAM @ their BUK launchers.
So Patriot needs to be ingame. Its just redicoulus how it currently is.
i think they will add patriot in the next update ? irrc BVVD also said that they were planning to add HARMs in the next update - we will probably see partriot/s300/400/350 depending on which missiles they add for the patriot ig.
Patriot can mix both PAC-2 and PAC-3
and even then it updates targets half as often as it should due to the incorrect rotation speed
In addition to the “second beam” that doesn’t exist that it shows on the radar screen but in sensor view it doesn’t even show.
also should be ESA so do the 0.1 second updates as long as the radar is pointed the right direction
and some sources say it should have a back panel too that updates target positions
The buk ingame is using bukm2 radar, so its 1988 not even near 2000s, which is also why the buk radar is useless and the TELARS are the only usable bit about it