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We should’ve never gone past 2010 vehicles, the discourse around vehicles becomes more and more insufrable
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the T90M doesnt have great mobility unlike the abrams where its mobility is very good like decent reverse gear great turret armor and a good reload that about the only thing thats better than the T90M in game until the T90M2 which only gets the reverse gear of the T14 but the armor on the T90M is phenomenal cant even pen the upper front plate lower plate is volumetric hell and if you really want bias BMPT’s that this RUNS the BR that its been put at on release and still at 11.3 its bull there is so much bias in that the armor is wild and i never said everything in russia is OP im talking about their toptier like the KH38 no need for those missiles until they want to give NATO a KH38 equivalent the shouldnt be ingame the MI28NM is wild along with the Z10ME those both need a nerf and soon in SQB your forced to have either one since the LMUR and the BA11 its a loosing battle if you dont have either because of course once again they get the best AGM and before you say JAGM they cannot compare to these AGMS they are wildly better and if anything they tournament players will choose the BVM as said in your words its just a side copy but better mobility.

M10 booker is under preforming atleast for the beginning with heat and when i said nothing newer than 2010 i ment MBT not light tank im sorry that was my fault but you did make a point about the Chally and black night and i thought i put NATO vehicles my fault for not specifying again sorry

All I have to say is

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Nah

This is better.

Which is entirely Gaijins own doing. If there was proper consistency regarding sources and rules for implementation then the discourse would be way better. But alas if they keep flip flopping like they are rn without any communication then the discourse will be insufferable

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another russian bais

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Whats better than the Mi28nm? Maybe the z10ME comes somewhat close in it also being quite good vs air threats, but nothing beats LMURS in effeciency vs ground target. Then you trade 2 LMURS vs 6 vikhrs and you end up with a loadout of 6 LMURs and 6 vikhrs. If not intercepted thats 6 certain ground kills and possibly more with the vikhrs on targets behind soft cover or partly visible so that the lmurs cant lock on to. Plus youre now the only heli in the match thats invincible to all the other helis ir agms while having 6 vikhrs. Plus the best gun turret on any heli in the game for defending vs jets.

Z10ME comes close and is more effective vs jets that are further away and maybe not even going for you, Ah64e is somewhat close vs ground targets but almost defenseless vs jets and cant do anything vs other ldircm helis.

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Ehm, according to the rules behind the free backups thats not true.
Free Backup is supposed to be Toptier - 1 Br of the battle. So in a 13.0 Match everything that is 12.7 and lower is a possible fit. And 13.0 is in fact the current top tier of GRB, cause gaijin is not willing to limit 12.0 tanks to 12.0 cas. Would need to test if thats true and remove my SPAA from top tier lineups but that is how i understand the rules behind that mechanic

Nothing beats the Mi28 currently or comes close. Z10ME has not the one shot potential of the Mi28 while Mi28 weapons fly much faster and Mi28 having the very best radar.

I already went through this in another thread with ppl claiming this. LMUR Speed (from wiki, so take with grain of salt, speed probably changes during flight duration depending on burner and climbing/diving phase): Mach 0,9. At sea level that is ~305-310 m/s. BA11 speed: 310 m/s.

Difference is as you said oneshot potential, BA11 doesnt have iog and the lofting is also the best on the LMURS.
That still leaves the z10ME with 8 BA11s and 8 TY-90s…id say its quite close, but having never played the chinese top helis id still say the mi28nm is a bit better for its gun and the 6 vikhrs you can equip together with the LMURS

JAGM speed is the same btw. Or actually after also looking that up its even better: 340m/s and since they loft way less than LMURS the time to target on the JAGMs is most likely much quicker than the others

Radar is a gimmick. You use it you see jets. Cool. But jets also immediately know where you are. Or know theres a heli up at least.

tbh people that spawn in type03 is a hindrance to the team

Or free israeli imp chapparal. Saw one at 12.0 once

baseless sure classic russian cope go check the forum about how the russian armor overperforms and how many NATO tanks underperform also yes the 28NM is by far the best Heli ingame same with SU 30 its the BEST CAS IN GAME

I have been on the dev server since day 1, and it has never had an issue with detonating with a radar lock. Either this is a massive skill issue on your part, or you found a bug.

The T-80BV killed through the ufp with old ammo in UK says otherwise. According to the game this is impossible 😂

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whatever my guy. Your bs is not worth my time

says the one that can’t use a missile properly

Literal video evidence and other people noticing it as well… keep ignoring it. Maybe your dilusion eventually becomes reality

Cool, people noticed a bug that does not affect everyone. Stop trying to play this out like your previous statements weren’t factually incorrect