+1 for Cuckoo, British 5.3-6.0 is very underfunded and this would make an excellent event vehicle.
(Also give 2nd 3rd Comet pls)
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It depends on the engine governor. In late 1943 the governor of the HL230 was changed to limited the max RPM from 3000 (where the engine produces 700 PS) to 2500 (where it produces 600 PS).
All Panther Gs were produced after this change, therefore all would have the engine limited to 2500 RPM (and therefore 600 PS) from the factory.
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Finders keepers is the name of the game.
All im saying, if it was at least modified by brits, it wouldnt be further murder of TT identity.
UK TT is already full of foreign equipment, this one at least we captured and operated. Having it as an Event vehicle will keep it rare, either that or a GE Premium at the same standard as 50% of the German ones.
Captured vehicles are legit.
Cuckoo and Deserter have actual history detailed around their use. I have no issues with this being a premium/BP/gift vehicle due to the history alone.
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i say no as it ruins the value of german tree by taking a unique vehicle just like swedish tiger 2 P so i think it should be changed from the G model panther to the A model as other countries already have it
any unmodified captured vehicle should not be added
The French have an early G and the Russians get an A version.
Besides this is not as simple as just “make it another tank”. This is a specific real life tank, so changing the actual version in game would just make it not the tank in the suggestion.
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Noooooo! not the Deserter! I need at least 1 Panther in the tree for research.
Did British crews of captured Panthers like their German tanks much compared to some other tanks the British had available?
the french dauphine is a A model
unmodified captured vehicles dont belong in the game its very simple
It is not. It is an early G without the chin mantlet.
This is extremely easy to prove. The main difference between the G and A models is the side armor, which on G series was modified to 50mm at 30 degrees, which is exactly what the Panther “Dauphiné” (and the German Panther G) have.
Compared to the Panther A, which has upper side armor that is 40mm at 40 degrees. This also applies to the Russian captured T-V.
TL;DR: The Panther “Dauphiné” is infact a Panther G, specifically an early Panther G since it lacks the chin mantlet.
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its actually a late g model as its done to simplify production late war
this is a late war panther G with night vision
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All G models have this side armor, late or early. There are other differences like the lower glacis thickness (50mm instead of 60mm), and the roof armor of both the hull and turret.
The reason this is an early G model is because the chin mantlet was not done when Gs started coming out of the factory. Only later on did chin mantlets start to be added to tanks.
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“At the same time a new gun mantle was gradually introduced. It had a ‘chin’ guard to stop enemy armor piercing shells ricocheting off the bottom of the mantel and penetrating the roof of the chassis and killing the driver or radio operator. When allied troops inspected the M.N.H. Panther production factory at the end of the war they found turrets still being produced with the older curved gun mantel with out the ‘chin’ guard.”
+1, would be funny in sim
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+1
Everyone else has captured vehicles; the British need theirs, even more so the big-name ones like this.
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Panther “Dauphiné” was captured in August 1944, a month before the chin mantlet started being introduced. It is an early Panther G.
And what you quoted doesn’t prove they removed the chin mantlet late in the war. Just that they were still producing early mantlets.
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Sure, why not? It could make for a fun Premium tank with a neat little bit of history. A +1 from me!
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