Yeah. Between the Mk101 engines and the lack of ALARM, I just dont get why they fear the Tornado GR1.
C&P Missing ALARM post ready to go for every single major update Dev fourm and BR Change.
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ALARM Anti-radiation missile. Finally, the numbers are filled in (Fig. 1). Equipped with inertial navigation and proximity fuze, operating in the same frequency band as the 88A model. Its destructive capability is not an issue, but its propulsion allocation and trajectory design are truly mind-blowing. The boost phase + cruise phase propulsion consists of 42 kN × 0.7 s plus 2.825 kN × 52 s. In terms of allocation, rather than being an anti-radiation missile, it resembles more of a Non-Line-of-Sight (NLOS) air-to-ground missile. After launch, the missile attempts to climb at a steep angle of 35 degrees to a cruise altitude of 12,000 meters. Due to the excessively weak thrust-to-weight ratio during the cruise phase, when launched from low altitude, its climb speed only exceeds Mach 1, making it very vulnerable to interception. Additionally, because the designed dive angle reaches up to 50 degrees, if you launch it at close range at high speed (i.e., “ghost head” maneuver), the missile will trigger its dive late. With a maximum load factor of only 5G and without reducing speed, it won’t be able to pull down sufficiently, instead flying just tens of meters above the target’s head without effect (Fig. 2). Currently, if launching M1 close to the ground, one must fire from beyond 5 kilometers for the missile to possibly descend and hit the vehicle… Absurd.
Its distinctive feature is a third propulsion phase delivering 7.13 kN·s of impulse, utilizing a dual-pulse mechanism triggered when the missile’s speed drops below 450 m/s to accelerate terminal penetration. However, because the first two phases burn in sequence, this third stage cannot ignite until 55 seconds after launch, rendering it effectively useless in actual combat scenarios. While the total impulse, drag characteristics, and seeker performance are fundamentally sound, issues with trajectory planning and thrust allocation make the system akin to an acrobat—likely requiring significant redesign; otherwise, it remains impractical for operational use.
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My opinion on C5s. Wait.
BRs are compressed to hell and the F3 Late is not in a good place. C5s would likely move it to 13.3 where it would only be worse. So wait. Dont add them yet.
If we ever get a decompression and its decent and the F3 Late ends up on the edge between 2 BRs, where its not good enough to be in the BR above but too good for the one below. Add C5s. Then it can be at the higher of the 2
In the meantime, Fix BOL, Add Phimat Pods and restore the top speed
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C-5’s are NOT better than the 120B. But it would definitely go up to 14.0 if it got them and ASRAAM
For an aircraft like the F3 Late, im semi-of the opinion that they would be quite good. The F3 isnt engaging in any dogfights and serves better in a more defensive playstyle. That is where C5s are better than the A/Bs. I dont think they would warrant an increase persay, but Gaijin is Gaijin and would increase the BR.
I dont think ASRAAM should be considered for the late, and instead we should get a late-late for that
The “late-late” would be the one that gets C-5 since the FSP was the C-5 getter.
Yeah, but im doubting we’ll probably acutally see the FSP, given the “late” name. So Im just going ot assume that C5s are on the table for the late, and in that they should remain on the table as an optional small buff, if it needs it, if we ever get decompression and if its good enough to actually change anything.
We know the “late” is the AOP with 9M since it has 120B’s with datalink. There’s no reason for it not to be called AOP since we did have 9M when those aircraft were in service. I’m still waiting on our de-chirped 9L’s
Yeah, Dechirped 9Ls would be good, but Id also take fixed BOLs, Phimat and a finished FM. But I think that is unreasonable to expect
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I wounder why other Tornados like the 11.3 Naval one didn’t get their ARM missiles. Russians have this mod for their 11.0 Mig-27 etc. etc. We just get it at 12.3 BR.
Laser guided versions of PGM (PGM-500/1 and PGM-200/1) were added?
Didn’t notice that on dev server
Now we just need to get them on the GR1 too
No one Posted the ALARM meme?
Kinda disappointed xD
Well, its just like the update then, lacking quite a bit of ALARM
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Anyone noticed the pgms dont have MITL or is that a me problem