Panavia Tornado (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

2 questions:

First off,

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What are those missiles above the fuel tanks? Doesn’t look like Aim-9 or ASRAAM. Looks more like ALARM

and assuming that is a Tornado Gr4 and those are AAMs, does this mean a possibility of one in the future with 4x AAMs instead of just 2?

Secondly, has anything further been said on this? It’s about time the IDS actually got even a partial radar, I was expecting it to come with the F-111 but even its missing a ground radar (I think). Though I suppose now the devs have a reason to develop a ground radar mechanic, now we’ve got the F-111 and then it can just be C&P over after the F-111 has it.

Isn’t it already implemented with the Su-39’s radar pod?

I think the first Aircraft that could have had a MTI mode is technically the A-4E, though the A-6, A-7, and AV-8B+ definitely had the capability it seems strange that a number of aircraft have been added since the mechanic was implemented and yet haven’t had it conferred or otherwise modeled(outside the X-Ray view).

Yeah, but I have no idea how good it is and I dont think its quite the same kind of ground radar right?

ALARM

The ALARM stub pylons and ejectors weren’t the same as the sidewinder/ASRAAM stubs and rails. GR.1/GR.4 didn’t carry more than 1 (inboard) sidewinder/ASRAAM per wing, and Tornado “EF.3” didn’t carry ALARM on the wings - So there’s little to infer that the two kinds of stubs had common wiring and integration that would make AAMs and ARMs interchangeable.

Both Tornado GR.1 and GR.4 could carry 9x ALARM: 3 on each wing pylon if fuel tanks weren’t carried, and 1 on each of the 3 belly hardpoints. So the GR.4 doesn’t present an additional capability in this regard.

Other than the ACM rework for ARI 23274 I’ve not heard anything since.

They are ALARM

They are ALARM, they have dedicated pylons so I don’t think so.

I was wrong haha.

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Gotcha

The pylons are different too. You can see that the outboard ALARM pylon is completely different to the inboard Sidewinder pylon:

Also the inboard ALARM pylon appears to be horizontal, while the inboard Sidewinder pylon you see above is angled down:

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Damn could’ve sworn it was the same stub, my bad.

Funny enough, the GR1/IDS models still have 4xstubs with LAU-7.


Thought so 😅

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Thanks all

Is anyone else having problems with the super temps flying all over the place?

You mean the usual thing or something new?

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It’s been a bit since I’ve flown the Tornado F.3.

They’re acting like 530Fs when chaffed.

I fired at a target 10000ft above me in PD and the missile just started veering off into nowhere with no other targets in scope. No issues maintaining the PD lock at all.

Well, the thing is Skytrashes have their own seeker, that is much worse than Foxhunter, so it might have lose its target, while radar was fine with it. Not like it was doing so all the time. Not like i lost at least 10 head on kills at around 200 alt due to my missile going at the target and then deciding it has places to be and going somewhere else. SO just Skytrash things

Did they not upgrade it as part of the SuperTEMP upgrades?

Irl or in game? Irl no, in game i also do no think so, as both normal and supertemps do weird shenanigans. The only seekers upgrade was the original aim 7e2 to skyflash. It changed conical scanning to inverted mono pulse.

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