P-47N‘s Flight Model is Crippled

Today I discovered that the same issue still persists in the chinese F-47N, and maybe in the P-47M(just a guess, didnt test it)

Not only the values of the flightmodel are the same as the older p47N model, but also the behavior is the same as the older p-47N. At this point, they are totally different planes

I also copypasted your bug report to apply it for the F-47: Community Bug Reporting System

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I tried P-47N after FM fixes but, it is really questionable current FMs are correct because it doesn’t go stall/flat spinning when I pull so hard below 200km/h.

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I‘ve tried the P-47N once after the update and I can feel strong buffet when pulling full stick. It is a little bit harder to stall it than other P-47, but I think the aircraft hits its critical AoA.

It’s a common issue that a lot of planes in WT Sim are harder to stall considering relative movement of the elevator. I think the slope of lift coefficient and the CltoCmCoeff do play a factor here, and also the elevator angle limits ( the one fixed for the Corsair in the update).

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Plenty of War Thunder flight models are like this unfortunately.

Some aircraft stall and spin like they should.
Some aircraft stall yet magically recover even though you’re still pulling the stick.
Some aircraft just won’t stall at all.

I don’t know why they keep putting kid gloves on the FM’s. Have you flown the 190A’s since the last update? You practically have to force it to stall at times. Sometimes it’s as though the elevator has locked up at only 400km/h.

On the upside at least the Hurricane now stalls properly. Too bad the Macchi’s don’t…

what do you mean? It’s a while that I don’t fly props in sim

Have you flown the 190A’s since the last update? You practically have to force it to stall at times. Sometimes it’s as though the elevator has locked up at only 400km/h.

It seems that early FW190As are harder to stall when pulling full stick while FW190F and Dora stalls very fast if pulling a little too much. Looks they have different CoG, and it’s been a problem for a while.

The Macchi fighters don’t stall correctly. If you absolutely force them they’ll drop a wing (if you’re lucky) but then they’ll magically recover instead of falling into a spin.

I think in general aircraft are lacking elevator strength and the buffet is occurring far too late with certain aircraft. The Corsairs even with the FM tweak are still terrible for this, they stall far too late beyond the buffet even flying uncoordinated and they auto-recover from stalls at times. If the F4U drops a wing you can even correct with the rudder and continue to fly in a controller manner despite the fact it should leave controlled flight until the stick is released much like the Spitfire/109/La’s etc.

I also find the lack of torque effects to be somewhat suspect which is also stopping the aircraft from rolling over and spinning as it should.

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the engine was moved forward a bit on the a-5 and onwards, so that makes sense

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