Centurion LPT turned out to be a dark horse for me. Turret, gun, ammunition from AGS, which sits at 11.0. And according to mobility, source says that this is a highly modernized centurion. It turns out that from the class medium tank and br 8.0 it should be moved to the lt subtree on br 10.3 - 10. 7 at least this will give us the top lt in TT.
11.0 is way too high for that, less mobile AGS and most likely with a much worse round.
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10.3 for set-up ;)
Eh, very unlikely, The Royal artillery are very keen on the Boxer RCH. Hell, there’s rumors that the entire reason the Mobile Fires Platform programme (the AS90 replacement program) is delayed is because they submitted a plan to just buy Boxer RCHs without actually doing a competion.
Nah, why the hell would we buy that, we just got the archer, just double down and make archer the primary mobile artillery at this point.
The boxer RCH is ugly as well, archer looks much better :)
If the MOD do decide on Archer as the main AS-90 replacement, I hope it’s the one where it’s mounted on a MAN truck rather than the interim Swedish design that has been bought so far.
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Well if they do, which hopefully they will, it would make sense to have them on the MAN since its our logistics vehicle anyways.
The (current) Archer has already been deemed to be too obsolete for the intended service life of the MFP from what I’ve heard. The MFP has 4 main requirements: 40KM range, as close as they can to 20 RPM for 10 minutes, 30 redeployment time from firing, & Fit in an A400M. And the ability to intergrate with the Strike bragide concept is proably going to be extremely appealing. Currently Archer just can’t sustain fire for that long that fast due to the loading system and requires a sepreate logistics system.
BAE & Rhinemetall are suggesting an improved Archer on a Rhinemetall 8x8 chassis already in use with the british army, Hanwha & LMUK are suggesting a modified K9A2, KMW are putting forward the RCH on a boxer, and a late entry is Ebit’s new 10x10 thing that’s probably going to loose all things considered. (Also apprently CEASAR is in the running, but I can’t find any offical announments)
Personally I’d go with a mix of K9s and Boxers, K9 + some K10s for the RPM requirement with boxers for the strike bragades. They are looking for three bragades with 24 pieces each or two with 32 pieces each. So there’s a room for mixing and match to get the performance they want. But again, they seem pretty all in on boxer these days.
Eye candy as payment for wall of text
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The proposal for further archer purchases do put it on that chassis, also the Swedish are migrating to that chassis too
Why not just integrate Archer on the Boxer
Boxer isn’t long enough iirc so you’d run into space limitations for crew etc. The Archer also has a smaller internal magazine, it’s got a 20/21 (I’ve seen both numbers, I don’t know it’s its 20+1 in the autoloader or just people assuming that) round magazine, the RCH has a 30 magazine. The final nail in the coffin is that the RCH is capable of fire on the move and is fully stabilised, which really helps it with the shoot and scoot requirements.
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Lmao
amazing 10/10
Honestly part of me thinks that could be really fun
