Off-topic/General chat for Britain

very good work time

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The Chieftain we need

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Its headlights convey the emotion I felt when I saw it
😳

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Cool event tank

Why MOD UK was Refused to buy Mowag Piranha V in favor of Boxer?


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Everybody go give @Firestarter’s suggestion some love :D

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Most likely due to RBSL.

The UK was one of the founding nations involved in Boxer, we left just after the first 2 prototype’s were shown in favour of a now cancelled project. Still lots of the parts came from the UK anyway.

Then Rheinmetall and BAE merged into RBSL so its part British owned so for national interest it made the most sense.

The Piranha had nothing to do with the UK so they probably wouldn’t have seriously considered it.

But ASCOD SV was chosen instead BAE FRES SV.
I think the reason is not BAE.
(Although it is possible that they offered a discount)

Huh, I will do more looking, this I did not know.

The Boxer does everything piranha V does, but rhinmetall agreed to negotiate licensing for spares and such for after the initial contract ends, GD didn’t. GD are most of the problems with the Ajax programme these days too lmao, it’s not a very well run company.

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Things are differences between those 2 situations. At first BAE said they will produce FRES on factories they have already set on CV90, so in sweden. Much later in the negotiations they said that they will do local production, but mod has already decided at this point.

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Well there’s also the fact the guy in change of defence procurement at the time now works at general dynamics.

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ZT3a2 is the most cursed vehicle.
It has a laser rangefinder, but no gun. It has an NVD for commander optics, but no commander optics. ATGMs with noise immunity, and a tandem part on the same br with second-generation atgms

I decided to redo the information template for ATGM carriers, missiles, mortar

Current version

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New version

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It is Velocity not Velosity in English

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I removed strv 81, sho’t cal.
Replaced Vijayanta and T-90s Bhishma with Vickers MK 1(i) and T-80U

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Today table version.
great_britain_backup.zip (123.8 KB)
Added info about all in-game vehicles.

Added (without info)
MBT - 80 (cheli line)
Patria AMV with Hellfire (Exactor mk.1 fulder)
CVR(t) Spartan with javelin (MAP II fulder)
Stalwart swingfire (Ferret swingfire fulder)
QinetiQ ACAVP and NVH-1 (both at FV721 Fox fulder)

Scorpion 2000 moved down from 8.7 to 8.3
Saladin 90 moved up from 7.7 to 8.3
Scorpion 2000 fulder now starting from Saladin 90.

(and one joke hidden at sabre CVR(t) )

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Somehow, I’m not even a little surprised :)