Mmmm more tanks that we know sooo very little about, how fun. Unless more info on the black eagle comes out, it shouldn’t be added at all since so much of it would be up to speculation man.
10.3 BR worthy ERA would not warrant a full 1.0 BR jump man, it still doesn’t have thermals, no machine guns, and has a 10 second reload man.
So now we can’t add variants of event vehicles to regular trees because it “takes away” from them…?
No Merkavas? No ERA Centurions? Etc…?
Not to mention, your comment reinforced my point. Vehicles shouldn’t be locked behind limited paywalls to the degree that they gatekeep even all of its potential variants.
Let me sell you US AGS/LT prototype LMAO
Firstly, I agree with you that vehicles shouldn’t be locked behind paywalls—but that actually reinforces my point. Gaijin has consistently shown a tendency to avoid adding copy-paste vehicles as event rewards, likely to preserve their uniqueness and value.
Nope. The 292 is already enough of a hassle to contend with as it is, and should really be sitting at 11.0-11.3BR rather than 10.7BR. It needs nothing else.
Man, I don’t even know what that’s supposed to mean.
My problem is that in an uptier, nearly every tank can penetrate the Object 292 frontally—even without aiming for weak spots. For example, DM43 rounds can go through the sloped composite front plate with ease. Even an M1A1 can penetrate it from the front, which makes the armor effectively useless. In contrast, a T-80B in the same uptier can still rely on its armor to some extent, giving it a survivability edge the Object 292 simply doesn’t have.
A 292 with ERA and thermals wouldn’t be “copy-paste”; it would be 13.0 material.
It’s like saying that T-80BVM is a copy-paste of T-80B…
I mean… just like Object 292 can penetrate practically every tank frontally without aiming for weakspots either on its BR range, and even in top BR as well…?
The US AGS program vehicles. XM8 and CCVL specifically are near copy pastes of each other, and the Stingray in the UK tech tree is as well. which defeats whatever point you are trying to make about them making event vehicles unique or not minor adjustments, even to tech tree options.
Boo-hoo, it’s not like it can do the same to *checks notes: nearly every vehicle in-game
So? Every tank at that BR can get penned frontally, every Russian tank starting from 10.7 gets a unpenetrable hull so the Object doesn’t get ERA but gets the best dart in the game outshines it.
I nearly spat out my tea, what?
hurr durr P-51s in the battlepass, hurr durr copy paste bombers in the battlepass, hurr durr copy paste tech tree event vehicles that might be slightly worse at a higher BR. Need me to continue?
Yeah? Do all other nations really get the same treatment? Do I need to bring up the Leopard 2, which somehow has some of the best armor in the game, or the Adram?
I meant specifically in the context of event vehicles, especially when they’re premiums.
The Battle Pass is basically where Gaijin dumps its lower-effort content. Even the “least copy-paste bomber” just got guided rockets, so it’s not entirely reused. But let’s be real: the Battle Pass isn’t where Gaijin puts its unique or valuable vehicles.
Those top-tier, unique vehicles—the ones that fetch high prices—are usually reserved for the grind-heavy main events. These are the vehicles Gaijin wants to make stand out, and they rarely allow them to be copy-paste, precisely because of their rarity and economic value.
Those spots are pretty much reserved for the Object 195 (T-90 line) and Object 477A (T-80 line) they make the most sense since the 292 is a event vehicle and definitely not a top tier vehicle.
Higher BR tanks have an easier time penning lower BR tanks, shocking revalation. The 292 also lolpens everything at a lower BR (hell even at it’s own BR and in uptiers).
The T-80B armor will stand even less of a chance against rounds like DM43 and M829A1 though lol.
Oh boohoo. Find me a tank that can’t get penetrated frontally in an uptier match.
Oh, wait, that’s right. Every tank can get penetrated frontally when it’s in an uptier match.
They could add these i guess.
Well, did it have ERA IRL?
Also, it’s still hilarious how people think it’s OP. No thermals, poor mobility, no smoke grenades, no MG, and a 10 second reload (twice as fast as some stuff it meets).
292 is no where close to OP.
It’s a “medium tank” that fills the role of tank destroyer.
No smoke grenades, no machine gun, slower reload. It’s fine where it is.
Either way it doesn’t need ERA. It’s armored enough for its BR.