Nuclear Thunder!

So, in order to “buff” a single “9,000” type bomb for the Tu-95, it would have to be a different bomb. The FAB-9000 that it currently has is historically accurate. Its “weakness” is not an issue with the bomb itself, it is due to how “small” its explosive mass is in comparison. Because it is a “bunker buster”, not an “High Explosive” bomb (whatever the correct term is for “normal” bombs). This FAB-9000 has a thick casing, which leaves less room for explosive filler.

The other “option” would be for Gaijin to undo/revert the changes they made to the destructive radius of armored vehicles a while ago. But that would affect all bombs not just the FAB-9000.

I am not arguing against the Tu-95 getting a better single “block buster” bomb, but you/we would need to advocate for a DIFFERENT bomb. Trying to change its current FAB-9000 is a dead end; it will NOT be changed. Again, because its stats are correct.

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It could get the thin-walled FAB-9000 GP bomb with like 8000kg of TNT equivalent, but I’m PRETTY sure that gaijin gave us the FAB-9000 bunker buster on purpose(as a balancing decision)

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Or changing how bases fundamentally work

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I believe most bombs shouldn’t have been halved on their kill radius, yeah some were definitely out of proportion but gameplay wise it makes them worse than just using atgms. In the TheCodMineMan video titled “CARPET BOMBING THE ENTIRE MAP WITH A B-52 HORDE” In the clip they carpet bombed the map with 8 B52s and killed 0 enemies. For having the biggest bomb payload the b52 failed to preform.

I’m not saying to be unrealistic and change the fab 9000 to a 200m kill radius just cause its big. I’m just saying that bombs in general shouldn’t have been as nerfed as they were, and it especially effected bombers cause of their size, spawn cost, and vulnerability.

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Over half was too much of a nerf! maybe work it down slowly from 105m to 90, slowly step it. Un-nerf the big bombs let us have some fun lol.
Tbh I rarely got killed by a fab 5000 or 12k. If I did I was never that annoyed happy to be part of the meme kill feed lol.

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I mean it’s still 4 tons of TNT, but I read somewhere that that bomb was discontinued due to its blast radius not compensating for it’s inaccuracy in high altitude bombing, it stated that during the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan soldiers ~225m away would be disabled with sever concussion, ruptured ear drums etc. but the lethal radius was only ~57m, and that’s for foot soldiers, not tanks.
As I have mentioned before, blast radius increases at the cubed root of the increase in explosive mass, ie. to double the blast radius you need to cube the amount of explosive.
To double the blast of 500kgs of TNT requires 2000kg, to double 2000kg of TNT requires 8000kg and so on.
This is due to the expansion of the blast wave rapidly increasing its surface area, meaning that there is far lower pressure at any given point.
Think of it like blowing up a balloon, how much dose it expand with the 1st breath compared to the 2nd, 3rd and so on?

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if the Fab-9000 is a bunker buster, shouldn’t it be classified as an armour piercing bomb and have the kinetic penetration stats to go with it? Right now it’s classified as a regular tnt bomb, meaning all that weight does nothing. I’m not sure what testing results it had, if any, but if in game it were able to pierce through the deck of an aircraft carrier and one shot it with a direct hit from high altitude then that would be enough to justify the bomb, in my opinion.

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When will we get those game modes back? I would really wish to play my strategic bomber in it. ARB is painful to grind them right now.

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B-52 are not easy to play. The rear gun angles are somehow so limited that you can’t use it in most cases and Mig-21, Starfighters, Mig19, Lightings etc are close in 2-3 minutes after game start. You get killed so fast, unbelievable. B-52 also very fragile, it doesn’t even survive short bursts. Acceleration also weak.

Then there are no good targets to use it agains. Four small bases …

Its a bad addition, mostly incompatible to Air RB.

In ASB it was a pure joy to use. In AAB can be used in last phase of the battle to bomb the enemy AF. In ARB … it sucks. Not even tried to play in TRB with it.

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Dear Gajin,
when the next nuclear thunder comes back, can it be like a small event with small prizes? Maybe some decals and decouration and a profile icon? Like a tu95 and B52 nuclear pilot helmet? Would be cool!
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Yep, in ARB are no targets for strategic bombers. Bombing airfields was patched out. Never understood why. These tiny bases at high tier can be bombed by any fighter or strike aicraft. While slow bombers have nothing to go for, except you wait for the bases to respawn. Its meh.

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The K/D farmers got upset that games ended early / Died because he ran out of fuel / oil /ammo
(once every a blue moon btw)

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Indeed, successful airfield bombing was super rare in ARB.

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Yeah, it usually happened only if one or more bombers managed to get back to base and rearm for second run.

There were cases over the years which caused the cries to remove the AF destruction, first one that comes to mind was the release of Me264, you had to beeline to them with P-63C/P-61 to prevent AF destruction, something that was beyond average player. Similar thing happened with release of Tu-4 and F222/NC223.

Personally, they should have kept the AF destruction, just instead of autowin it should have had a large ticket impact and perhaps a penalty to enemy repair and reload.

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Yeah, I agree that AF destruction should have stayed. Also, they could do something similar to the Nuclear Thunder system of having multiple airbases. Doesn’t need to be 5 or 6 like in the event, but could make it 2 or 3. So that they can still spawn, but would be forced to spawn at a side AF or an AF way in back. And that far back AF could have some extreme air defenses so that it wouldn’t be impossible to destroy, but you would have to take out the big AA systems first or risk being obliterated even at high altitude.

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My genuine complaint about nuclear thunder and how to have made it better got hidden due to being deemed “Offensive, Abusive, or Hateful” There is ZERO of that in the message, I read the community guidelines and NOTHING states that one cannot use swear words.

Which I didn’t use any of those words toward a specific person or a group of people, only as a DESCRIPTOR and to show my genuine personal opinion on things NOT RELATED TO A PERSON OR PEOPLE.

Jesus christ, this definitely ranks up there on the dumbest form of moderation I’ve experienced… (I apologize if that offends the moderation team but, come on, seriously?)

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except the message was flagged by the community

if a forum mod had an issue with it, then it would have been deleted

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Maybe actual flak that actually uses projecticles and has a travel time.
If you want to bomb that AF, you need to manouvers to avoid /minimize fragmentation from destroying your aircraft before it makes the drop.

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Then I guess someone got triggered that I called them out for not playing the gamemode how it was intended and genuinely want to see it get better.

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