Panserbil 22 (2½ Ton)

PANSERBIL 22 (2½ Ton)

TYPE: Armored truck/Armored Infantry Fighting Vehicle

ARMAMENT

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  • 1x 37mm Rapid firing Kongsberg/Hotchkiss cannon
    -Barrel length in caliber: L/35
    -Elevation: Unknown
    -Traverse: 30 degrees
    -Lisence produced at: Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk
    -Caliber: 37 mm (37x94R)
    -Semi automatic mechanism
    -Ammunition stowage: Unknown but probably a bit

  • 1x 7.92x61mm Norwegian Colt Model M/29 Heavy machinegun
    -Norwegian modified & produced at: Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk
    -Caliber: 7.92x61mm
    -Rate of fire: 650 shots per min
    -Magazine capacity: 220 (belt fed)
    -Ammunition stowage: Unknown but probably a lot

TECHNICAL DATA
Eigne: Inline 6 Overhead Valve, 206.8 cu
Max brake horse power: 68.5 @ 3200 rpm (61-69 Hp)
Max Torque: 150 Ft. Lbs. @ 1,000 to 1,400 rpm
Transmission: 4 Speed transmission 157 “Wheelbase
Fuel type: Gasoline
Crew: 4+ men
Drive: 3 axles, 6x6

HISTORY
In 1935, after a long discussion, 2 pieces of Chevrolet truck chassis of 1 and a half ton (2 axle) and 2 and a half ton (3 axle) respectively were acquired for construction as armored vehicles. The trucks were delivered with only the front and torpedo wall (which was completely normal) and from the pictures it appears that the only things that were kept from this were screens, lights and bumpers. everything else was built up. in addition to the normal driver’s position, only the steering wheel was mounted in the rear position, so that the gas, brake, clutch and gear had to be operated by the front driver regardless of which direction the wagon was going in. Armor plates were mounted around the crew compartment that went up to about 1 meter. the grill and bonnet were also replaced with bonnet plates

Photos from the exercises at Gardermoen in 1939 show no surviving 2 and a half tonne cannon. Along the way, other modifications were also made to the carriages, presumably as a result of experiences during exercises. In service these proved to be very serviceable vehicles and they were popular with opponents during the exercises. They were used in exercises in all years from 1935 to 1939 in several places in the country and they visited all DR recruit schools.

On 9 April 1940, both armored vehicles were at Gardermoen and they were not used during the campaign. Their further fate after they were taken over by the Germans is not known today

IN GAME
This could be a cool tank destroyer/light tank in-game somewhere between 1.0 to 2.3 in Rank 1. Its a decently armored vehicle, with a Naval cannon that should be able to punch trough much of the armor it faces at its br, in addition to an powerful 7.92mm machinegun. Its heavy, and its eigne is not the most powerful one, but it worked satisfyingly in the exercises they did at this time. Unlike its other part wich is an 1.5 Ton truck with only two axles, this has three, and has much better off road capabilities and performance, in addition to payload capasity.

Kongsberg/Hotchkiss - L/35 - license produced

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Picture:
https://i.ibb.co/yXRXWry/03349-SYHAjrp.jpg
Model and production

Type: Hotchkiss
Manufacturer: Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk
Constructor: Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk
Customer: Marine
Model: L/35
Caliber: 37 mm (37x94R)
Production period: 1904-

Technical data
Mechanism: Semi-automatic
Barrel length: 35 cal (1295 mm)

Colt M/29 TUNGT MASKINGEVÆR - Norwegian modified & produced

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Picture:
https://i.ibb.co/vsHJ70T/MG-Kongsberg-M29-1930-1-1.jpg
Model and production

Type: Machine gun
Manufacturer: Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk
Constructor: Browning/Colt
Customer: Army and Air Force
Model: Colt M/29 HEAVY
Caliber: 7.92x61
Production period: Approx. 1937-1943
Number produced: 1150
Serial number: 1050-2199, + converted from previously delivered

Technical data
Mechanism: Automatic
Rate of fire: 650 shots per min
Magazine capacity: 220 (belt)
Total length: 956 mm
Barrel length: 607 mm
Weight: 15,000 grams
Sight: Gallow sight and open grain

AMMUNITION 7.92x61mm (not in use anywhere but norway!) every specs & detail included

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The machinegun could use all those cartrigdes, every spec is included and the dates

Raufoss Ammunitionsfabrikker - 7.92x61 MG Heavy - Sharp - MG heavy, full metal jacket

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https://i.ibb.co/FDnV8q5/Patron-792x61-MG-Tung-Helmantel-1938-1.jpg
Model and production
Caliber: 7.92x61 MG Heavy
Type: Sharp
Model: MG heavy, full jacket
Manufacturer: Raufoss Ammunitionsfabrikker
Country of manufacture: Norway
Year of production: Approx. 1937-1944
ID: SAA4495

Technical data
Total length: 83.85 mm
Cartridge weight: 29.2 grams
Ball diameter: 8.2 mm
Bullet length: 37.7 mm
Bullet weight: 14.2 grams
Bullet type: Full jacket
Ball casing material: Copper-nickel coated steel
Ball core material: Lead
Gunpowder type: Light smoke
Gunpowder weight: approx. 3.67 grams
Ignition mechanism: Berdan
Sleeve material: Brass
Sleeve length: 60.95 mm
Bottom diameter: 11.9 mm
Sleeve base: Rimless
Teeth cap: None

Live ammunition in 7.92x61 MG heavy from Raufoss had cartridge cases and caps in brass. Production took place from 1937 to 1944 with steel jacketed projectiles of 14.2 grams.

For firing tests in 1936, cartridges with two stars and an R at 12 o’clock were tested. Ammunition from 1943 and 1944 has copper-plated projectiles with a steel jacket. A small number of cartridges loaded by Finower Industrie GmbH in Germany with German pattern markings have been observed. These are dated 1943 with factory code cg. The German designation for this caliber is “7.9 mm Patr s.S 294/2 (n) norw tung” or “Patrone M/37”.

The cartridges were normally packed in cloth bands of 220 cartridges. These were regular 250 tapes with the last 30 cartridge pockets cut away. The ammunition was delivered in wooden boxes with 9 cardboard boxes, each containing one cloth band. The label on the wooden box was white. The cardboard boxes had an arrow on the lid which should point towards the weapon when you put the box in the ammunition box. This meant that the belt remained with the projectiles in the correct direction. These belts were designated “Sharp ammunition, heavy, unmixed”. If the belts contained tracer cartridges, the designation was “Sharp ammunition, heavy, mixed”.

The ammunition was produced until 1944. After this, it was reloaded in old empty casings to an unknown extent.

Raufoss Ammunitionsfabrikker - 7.92x61 MG Tung - Trace light - MG heavy, tracer

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https://i.ibb.co/s20KhYz/sporlys-1.jpg
Model and production
Caliber: 7.92x61 MG Heavy
Type: Tracer
Model: MG heavy, track light
Manufacturer: Raufoss Ammunitionsfabrikker
Country of manufacture: Norway
Year of production: 193x-1942
ID: SAA4495

Technical data
Total length: 83.9 mm
Cartridge weight: 25.7 grams
Ball diameter: 8.2 mm
Bullet length: 37.3 mm
Bullet weight: 11.0 grams
Bullet type: Track light
Ball casing material: Copper-nickel coated steel
Bullet core material: Lead + track light kit
Ignition mechanism: Berdan
Sleeve material: Brass
Sleeve length: 60.95 mm
Bottom diameter: 11.9 mm
Sleeve base: Rimless
Teeth cap: None
Quantity in package: 50

The tracer cartridges for the heavy cartridges had the same steel jacketed 11 gram projectile used in the light cartridges. The tracer light burned with a greenish color out to 1000-1200 m.
In 1943, a new 12 gram projectile was constructed. This had a candle set that was supposed to be easier to light, and burned with a yellowish colour.
The German term for heavy tracer light was 7.9 mm Patr. Sml’spur 293/2(n) heavy.
The tracer cartridges were delivered in boxes of 1,500 rounds. These contained 30 boxes of 50 rounds. A green stripe was used above the label. Track light cartridges were also delivered ready-made in strips together with sharp cartridges.

Raufoss Ammunitionsfabrikker - 7.92x61 MG Tung - Tracer - MG heavy, tracer light (yellow)

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https://i.ibb.co/h9pj3BW/gul-tracer.jpg
Model and production
Caliber: 7.92x61 MG Heavy
Type: Tracer
Model: MG heavy, track light (yellow)
Manufacturer: Raufoss Ammunitionsfabrikker
Country of manufacture: Norway
Year of production: 1943-
ID: SAA4495

Technical data
Total length: 84 mm
Cartridge weight: 27.3 grams
Ball diameter: 8.2 mm
Bullet weight: 12.0 grams
Bullet type: Track light
Ball casing material: Copper-nickel coated steel
Bullet core material: Lead + track light kit
Ignition mechanism: Berdan
Sleeve material: Brass
Sleeve length: 60.95 mm
Bottom diameter: 11.9 mm
Sleeve base: Rimless
Teeth cap: None

The tracer cartridges for the heavy cartridges had the same steel jacketed 11 gram projectile used in the light cartridges. The tracer light burned with a greenish color out to 1000-1200 m.
In 1943, a new 12 gram projectile was constructed. This had a candle set that was supposed to be easier to light, and burned with a yellowish colour.
The German term for heavy tracer light was 7.9 mm Patr. Sml’spur 293/2(n) heavy.
The tracer cartridges were delivered in boxes of 1,500 rounds. These contained 30 boxes of 50 rounds. A green stripe was used above the label. Track light cartridges were also delivered ready-made in strips together with sharp cartridges.

Raufoss Ammunitionsfabrikker - 7.92x61 MG Tung - Exercise cartridge - MG heavy, exercises

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https://i.ibb.co/dMx4Zk4/exsersise-bukllet.jpg
Model and production
Caliber: 7.92x61 MG Heavy
Type: Practice cartridge
Model: MG heavy, exercises
Manufacturer: Raufoss Ammunitionsfabrikker
Country of manufacture: Norway
Year of manufacture: 1938
ID: SAA4495

Technical data
Ball diameter: 8.2 mm
Ball type: Brass rod
Ball casing material: Brass
Ball core material: Brass
Sleeve material: Brass
Sleeve length: 60.95 mm
Bottom diameter: 11.9 mm
Quantity in package: 50

The practice cartridges were made from cut-out sleeves where 4 longitudinal grooves were applied to distinguish them from live ammunition. The projectile is a turned brass rod that is drilled inside. The rod goes down towards the bottom of the sleeve so that it was not pressed in during repeated use.
The cartridges were delivered in boxes of 50 cartridges.

Raufoss Ammunitionsfabrikker - 7.92x61 MG Heavy - Tracer

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https://i.ibb.co/4jW1ZWx/tung-tracer.jpg
Model and production
Caliber: 7.92x61 MG Heavy
Type: Tracer
Model -
Manufacturer: Raufoss Ammunitionsfabrikker
Country of manufacture: Norway
Year of production: 193x-1942
ID: SAA4495

Technical data
Total length: 83.9 mm
Ball diameter: 8.2 mm
Bullet weight: 11.0 grams
Bullet type: Track light
Ball casing material: Copper-nickel coated steel
Bullet core material: Lead + track light kit
Ignition mechanism: Berdan
Sleeve material: Brass
Sleeve length: 60.95 mm
Bottom diameter: 11.9 mm
Sleeve base: Rimless
Teeth cap: None
Quantity in package: 50

The tracer cartridges for the heavy cartridges had the same steel jacketed 11 gram projectile used in the light cartridges. The tracer light burned with a greenish color out to 1000-1200 m.
In 1943, a new 12 gram projectile was constructed. This had a candle set that was supposed to be easier to light, and burned with a yellowish colour.
The German term for heavy tracer light was 7.9 mm Patr. Sml’spur 293/2(n) heavy.
The tracer cartridges were delivered in boxes of 1,500 rounds. These contained 30 boxes of 50 rounds. A green stripe was used above the label. Track light cartridges were also delivered ready-made in strips together with sharp cartridges.

PICTURES

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CHEVROLET ARMORED 1½ TON TRUCK — ImgBB

SOURCES

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MOTORISERTE MILITÆRKJØRETØY I NORGE - HMKSHOP - Depot Moane
https://www.facebook.com/groups/243840341664/search/?q=panserbiler norskbygde
Hotchkiss - L/35 - Halvautomatisk

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Til_Dovre_Faller

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Heck yea its time for Sweden to get a Norwegian sub tree! take my vote!

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-1. It definitely wouldn’t be mobile. From what I’ve found, the weight of the armored truck should be 4.5-5 tons. With a 26hp engine, it would be extremely sluggish and slow.

Update:
-Updated the name, it was designated Panserbil 22 (See lisence plate “PB 22”)
-Added better stats. Unfortunately the exact weight and measurements are unknown
-Improved armament stats
-New and additonal pictures, the main picture is from an exersise in 1938 and shows it shooting

Probably yes, further research shows it should have ca 61/69 hp. Probably around 4 tons