Non-Historical Vehicle Classes, Discussion

Machinery of War Discussion Ground Vehicle
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Clearly identifies the vehicle as a “chasseur de char”, that’s good enough for me. Thank you for the correction!

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Oh, I didn’t comment you have my full support.

Vehicles should be classed (on related to a universal classification) based on what the nations who use them classified them as.

Same with names, names should also be what the operator nation called them for names.

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A clear example of this is the SK-105A2

Argentina uses it as a tank destroyer, under the name SK-105A2 Kürassier.

JaPz.K A2 should be the name of the Kürassier in the French TT. Gaijin does everything in reverse

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/q6CPBi4BGViY

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The 15 cm Pz. W. 42, Brummbär, Sd. Kfz. 251/9, & 38 cm Sturmmörser are all labeled as “tank destroyers” which is quite bizarre…

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Are they not counted as self propelled guns?

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They should be counted as rocket artillery and infantry support vehicles, not tank destroyers

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forgot about the F-117, F-111, F-105, F3D, and the T-95 (doom turtle)

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  • 15 cm Pz. W. 42 → MRLS

All vehicles were part of the German mechanized infantry (Panzergrenadiere):

  • Sd. Kfz. 251/9 → armored infantry support vehicle (APC/IFV)
  • Sd. Kfz. 251/10 → armored infantry support vehicle (APC/IFV) [Platoon leader vehicle of other 251s]
  • Sd. Kfz. 251/21 → armored infantry support vehicle (SPG/SPAA) [Main task was ground fire support, AA was only secondary]
  • Sd. Kfz. 251/22 → armored infantry support vehicle (SPG)

Sturmartillerie:
Part of artillery branch :

  • StuG III Ausf. A → Assault tank (infantry support incl. anti-tank)
  • StuG III Ausf. F → Assault tank (infantry support, stronger gun to better fight T-34/KVs)
  • StuG III Ausf. G → Assault tank (infantry support, stronger gun to better fight T-34/KVs)
  • StuH 42 Ausf. G → Assault tank (infantry support incl. anti-tank)

Part of the Panzertruppe (tank branch):

  • “Brummbär” (Sturmpanzer) → Assault tank (infantry support) [Hitler declared it as a “Panzerjäger” (tank destroyer) to end a power struggle between branches. It still was designed and used like previous Assault tanks, but in separate units “Sturmpanzer Abteilungen”]
  • Sturmmörser → Assault tank (“infantry support”)

StuG III A-E → StuH 42 → StuPa → Sturmmörser
StuG III A-E → StuG III F/G → Jagdpanzer (td’s): Hetzer, Panzer IV/70, Jagdpanther, Jagdtiger, Ferdinand

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