I doubt that the Soyuz should be part of this league. She was just a metal skeleton, laid down and abandoned shortly after. USSR neither had the technical capabilities nor the ressources to build a ship as we see it in WT: The strongest battleship ingame. How can it have that accurate guns, when the only test mount existing suggests the gun wasn’t really viable (too much wear). Her barrels would have been worn out in no time, which would have resulted in terrible dispersion. Are these stats from the first 10 shots or something?
How can It have this kind of armor, when USSR industry wasn’t able to make cemented plates of this thickness? It was planned ok, but from what supplier they intended to get these plates? Imho its not sufficient to just state that something was planned. There also should be a logic check in this kind of reasoning.
So from what suppllier? From Germany? Like Sevastopol’s guns (lol)? The whole rus top BR BB / BC fleet is just unfair guesswork in my taste. Why has the country with no RL capital ship building the best blue water fleet in WT? Irl largest ships USSR built were 7 cruisers in the 1930ties and 1940ties. Not a single capital ship. All larger vessels were taken over from the old tzarist fleet or were leased from other naval powers.
At least in the dev server, she felt like made out of paper, and the guns were often insufficient to penetrate ships like Soyuz, Iowa or Yamato.
Is it still the case on the live server? Is she worth it at all? From what I’ve seen, Gneisenau is just literally better while being 2 BR steps lower for some reason.
I also noticed that Bismarck, unlike most ships, can NOT empty any ammo racks at all, even if you carry like 100 shells.
I’ve fought a few so far. They cant tank a hit against someone who knows where to aim, but seems to have very decent firepower. At least i’ve seen more than a few Bismarks get a decent number of kills. I think the key will be to play Bismark smart, rather than aggresive.
I cant and wont comment as I dont have her and even in Vanguard, i’ve yet to fight these 3 enough to draw a reliable conclusion on their survivaibltiy. Wierdly, everyone seems to have been rushing for Bismark
Eh… Gne has a work of fiction RoF. So hopefully that will be nerfed, but Gne are pretty squishy at the moment if you aim right. I think Bismark being higher does make sense as it has more guns and is a better all rounder. The absolute lowest Bismark should go is 8.0, but Im reserving judgement for a few weeks as I doubt many have fully spaded yet. Things like Ammo wetting make a massive difference.
I wont comment on that either. May just be a matter of time or a bug report needed
I just unlocked AP for Bismarck, so no real evaluation possible. I was sailing second line for assists and my only sinkings are a hand full of cargo ships (with almost no rewards, despite them beeing the top objective on convoy maps…Gajin…). So far no Bismarck loss, though.
The only strange thing I noticed: Despite I never penetrated an enemy capital ship with HE… and never sunk one…I always got a alot damage point = game points for just lobbing HE salvos on enemy decks and superstructure. AP shell hits aren’t rewarded that much, except you make the kill. An AP assist gives you almost nothing.
I thought the 380mm Gneisenau made perfect sense as a Premium; what I don’t get is why it’s 7.7 while Bismarck is 8.3…
From what I’ve seen, both should be 8.0, basically. Gneisenau trades 2 guns for extraordinary armor, and Bismarck… yeah, has 2 more guns, but, in exchange, can’t seem to be able to take a hit.
So… yeah, as bad as it sounds, you are right.
It would seem so! Bismarck is basically a glass canon, except… well, for some reason, her 380mm guns have the lowest penetration against all modern 380mm guns. According to the formula this is correct, but I can’t help but to think maybe manual adjustments would be warranted on this one.
So Bismarck’s role is currently relegated to being some sort of support Battlecruiser. The shells can be devastating at closer ranges and the 23 second reload is amazing, that’s true- but… I don’t know. I would love to get Bismarck, but seeing the way she performs for now, I almost feel like skipping her, hahah.
When it comes to Yamato; from what I’ve seen, it’s a 1-hit death glass canon UNLESS you unload lots of ammo. At some point, the ammo racks become much smaller and that makes her much more survivable.
Reminds me on Tiger tanks and their frontal left ammo rack next to the driver. The most terrible position for ammo, inaccessible for the loader. Made no1 highest priority ammo rack which cannot be emptried. Its just on purpose and no bug report ever helped. Even with original documents of that time, which cleary stated ammo rack order.
I agree that it makes sense as a premium. The problem I have is their pattern of releasing better versions of tech tree ships as premiums at lower BR’s. They’ve done this in ground, air, and naval.
I haven’t got ammo wetting yet but whenever I get a fire it’s always in the front ammo elevator and I immediately try to extinguish it. The ammo explosions are the reason I lose the ship by far.
That’s actually…hilarious :-D But hey, why should a game that boasts itself with (semi-) realism and goes the lengths of modelling amazing stuff like ricocheting rounds penning stuff, rounds losing pen after overmatching light armor and penning vehicles behind, all those 1000s of flight models and basically the same amount of ammunition, bombs, arh missiles and all that stuff interacting with each other in 30 second tik tok flics, why should they, after modelling like 6 different ammo racks in every tank, actually model which one is the main one in a tiger 1, yk one of the most iconic tanks of ww2? Its probably…ahhhh classified…nooo hard to prove…ehhh documents are not clear about it…uhhhhm no actually the snail has sekrit documents that show the model is correct and that actually was the nr1 ammo mag /s
No, really the loader just climbed out of the turret basket and all the way through the hull, picked up a round in the furthest corner, dragged it all the way back and loaded it…after each shot.
I think with most of this silly stuff that needs fixing they either have just way too much to fix (i’m actually sure of that) or they are really afraid it might fk up stuff even worse. (If that’s the case, rightfully so)
kk thx, ill do that in the next days. rly kinda hard to tell if the translations are even semi correct if you don’t speak the language at all (i can kinda read kyrillic but can’t translate) or you could put up the same vote translated in the english forum?