"New" APHE test

Recently, testing of the new mechanics of fragmentation of APHE shells was added to the DEV server. I made 10 shots in the frontal projection and side projection with “old” and “new” APHE shells. Here are the results I got (vehicle under fire - Tiger E, shell - Pzgr 39; damage to internal modules (ammo) is not taken into account):

Frontal pojection:
“Old” - 90% oneshots
“New” - 70% oneshots

Side projection:
“Old” - 100% oneshots
“New” - 0% oneshots

Frontal projection, "old"










Frontal projection, "new"










Side projection, "old"










Side projection, "new"










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I cant one shot by hitting the cupola anymore

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German mains will love this

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You’re not using the better PZGR round anyway.

Which would be pointless, since overpressure APHE is much more lethal to the crew then the shell fragments.

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When your talking about explosive filler, more still does have an effect, regular PZGR has always been a better round over 39

Using shells with overpressure mechanic (>200g TNT equivalent) such as Pzgr in this test does not make sense, as it would result in a oneshot in 100% of cases.

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inc Br increase. but people cant see further than their cupola

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I can see the Sherman’s and vehicles that don’t have the gun to challenge as well getting moved down as well

It only benefits those who gets shot frequently and not those who shoot much more frequent that get shot.

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really is just “I can’t one shot tanks designed as breakthrough tanks without aiming anymore”.

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yeah lets nerf everything because brits and french shells suck

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Most rounds “sucked”. The French and British rounds are simply the closest to reality, though in their cases they are underperforming.

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LMAO i can smell this 0.9 kd british main who mad because us/usssr/germany have better tanks in the game which actually do damage instead of -1

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yeah keep taking this gajin agenda, its not like british and french shells were nerfe so bad, its not like HESH was destroyed, lets destoy APHE as well

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Please go read any number of studies on the topic. Hell, watch one simulation.

As the thread was locked and the individual responded with an incredibly depressing argument, I’m just going to edit this. This is a game. A game marketed at those with a fondness for history. As much as I would love for yanks or ruskis to leg it the moment the 17pdr blew a hole from one end of their tank to the other, that wouldn’t be very engaging for the player.

That argument does not, however, defeat the position that things should be as in line with available documentation. It would be far more fair to everyone involved if rounds were correctly modeled, especially as the ahistoric interpretation only really benefits a few countries whilst harming those that deemed the negligible benefits of APHE not worth the trouble.

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where i can watch a simulation on 30 sec track repair?

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