Somua SM is a very potent threat in a down tier yes, but do you know what it would be fighting if it goes up? Fully stabilized APFSDS firing tanks with laser rangefinders, some of which have thermals, like the M60A3 TTS. It already fights similar tanks in a full up tier, like the M60A1 RISE (P) and T-55AMD-1 and T-55AM-1. The Somua SM only has AP rounds and is un-stabilized, being at a major disadvantage against tanks it fights in a full up-tier, and it’s supposed to be like that. All tanks when in a full up-tier will struggle. That’s just how it is and how it is supposed to be. Your not supposed to be on par with a tank a full br level above you.
this isnt world of tanks, we do not simply decide that armor is not what it is irl and change it
anyway, somua is great but not really overpowered at 7.7 and raising it would probably kill it since the armor stops being relevant past 8.0 anyway and its an unstabilized conventional gun…
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Okay, now try to pen (and kill) frontally basically ANY soviet tank at 7.7 and higher. Spoiler: you just can’t do it above 500m.
It has 40mm side armor, dude. Even the 8.8 can pen it at extremally high angles and probably get a one shot kill due the ammo racks in hull sides.
I don’t know what kind of skill issue you need to have to consider this tank invincible. To get at a normal k/d on it, a you must know the maps and weakspots/ammoracks of all enemies. And he NEVER plays on his BR. Constant 8.7.
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To be honest, Gaijin really overstated Somua’s frontal armor, while distorting other characteristics as well.
But I don’t think it’s worth changing anything until the angled pen on the 100mm is changed and the turret is remodeled.
that’s mainly a problem of point and click gameplay, when you aim for vehicles where you just point and click and then face an enemy that you can’t point and click, you get people’s complaining that that vehicle is too op just because the player hasn’t practiced aiming at weakspots/flanking/cupola shooting/gun disabling/positioning/etc
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Two things are not fair about this tank… 1 it is a premium, meaning not everyone can get it. and 2 it is literally OP with it’s reload speed of 4s, and its ability to frontally pen the Turret of the Maus at ease and when I try to hit its weak spots it is almost always an auto bounce for some reason!!!
The last game I faced this thing in my Maus, dude shot 15 shells at me in 3 or less minutes. THIS IS NOT BALANCED.
I can see those who bought it trying to defend it in any way they can. still no matter what you say, this is a P2W tank and it is broken. and the Maus has to deal with that.
Maus is 7.7 Somua is too.
Maus can shoot once every 20 seconds. Somua can shit on you every 4 seconds.
Maus is slow AF, Somua is fucking fast and maneuverable.
Somehow also any damn thing that touches my barrel destroys it!!
Maus should not be at 7.7 should be 7.3 or 7.0.
Somua on the other hand, should be 8.0 if not 8.3.
Agree or disagree to my opinion, this damn thing and the way it is not balanced is a P2W.
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No to both of those.
The Maus would be OP at 7.3, and the Somua would be terrible at 8.3.
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A vehicle struggles in an up tier?
I’m shocked.
Spoken like a true German main.
It’s is NOT hard to kill from the front.
Dude the Tiger 2 has APHE a cupola shot will one tap it. this is a skill issue. Hell I can consistently knock them out with 17pdr APDS with decent shooting
What’s a Somua SM gonna to to a T-72?
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The entire tank turns green when it’s remotely off at any angle than head on bud
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And as usual, I expected nothing more than making fun of me and ofc insults.
meh the community is full of jit and they know it.
Maus is not balanced at 7.7 no matter how hard you try to say otherwise.
The Somua is great at 7.7, but the logic of making the Maus also 7.7 is just BS. I take my panther II to 8.3 and I can still do stuff with it. The Maus doesn’t offer you the same choices u can have on a mobile fast reacting tank. 7.3 is fair for it and it can face tanks that can kill it.
I feel like you are overhyping the somua sm.
It has the jumbo syndrome of having good frontal armor with paper thin sides. Hull has 40mm on the side and turret’s sides are 60mm.
The 4 sec autoloader is great but it is held back by its small first-stage of 8 rounds. It takes a long time to put more rounds into it.
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brUh. its a event vehicle ;
Again, the attack continues,
to this guy who thinks I am mad coz my Maus got penned. my issue is not being penned as much as getting spammed with shells every 4 seconds, and on top of that it is accompanied with high mobility.
In what world are both supposed to be the same br? also, a big load of tanks in 6.7 up to 7.3 can piss on a Maus, so the argument of it being broken down there and unkillable is bs. The British conqueror is a prime example of a tank that betters the Maus, yet both are at the same BR!
I know what armor the Souma has, it is not like I never killed it from the sides, I am waiting to see any of you playing 3 games with the Maus facing the Souma and intentionally flank it instead of facing it head on. the side armor thing requires me to be lucky enough to run into a Souma that is not facing me at all with the Maus.
if it is all about armor, The Leopard 1 is at 8.0 and has no frontal armor, it has DM13 giving it 302 mms of pen at a distance of 1500 m at an angle of 0deg. Heat is 400. compare that to the conqueror that has a stock shell of 422 mms at a distance of 1500m at an angle of 0degs. the tank is at 7.7 and has better armor than the leopard 1 and clearly than the Somua.
I agree that it is dumb to bring the Somua to 8.3 I was just saying how are two things that clearly are not on the same level be on the same BR.
Just so that you know, the T92 can kill the Maus and pretty easy too.
My point still stands the Maus would be perfectly fine at 7.3. it would finally get some fun rides and eventually get killed by a flanker or two. it is quite easy to disable a Maus.
now a final comment on those who love to use “skill issue” to undermine any opinion that is trying to address an issue, it seems to be a big fat skill issue on your part to not be able to kill a Maus with tanks at 7.0-7.3 if not 6.7.
as for the Turm III, u can kill it with a panther II my guy, the hell are u talking about?
You stated your reason as to why you disagree with my opinion. I also stated my opinion and reasons behind it. we can settle down on agreeing to disagree.
I may sound like I am; I was comparing it to the Maus at the same BR, and other tanks at that too.
Oh boy, can’t wait to try to kill a Maus with a Sherman 76.
Or a AMX-13