Would take too long to explain this so tl;dr
Leopard 2 TVM in Sweden had been equipped with C-technology armour which resulted in a ~550mm KE turret front, when the D-technology applique had been applied the protection increased to ~865mm KE (~320mm KE)
For a more in depth explanation see this:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/oMqKiGrKQSpU
For SLERA i’ve this:
could u at least try to use reliable sources and not some indian nobody website, the others arent better either
That SLERA image looks like a side plate ngl
We’re past that.
And I was showing where I got my information from, not what’s the absolute facts. Hence why I said I was misinformed. Read for a bit.
did you look at the wall of text you are posting
if you expect me to read trough all your paragraphs your are wholeheartly mistaken
If you cannot read the entire threat, don’t comment.
You’re heating a fire that has been put out. You are not needed here and are only causing drama. If you cannot read the entire thread for context, do not comment.
Classic gaijin
What an outstanding individual. I’ll be waiting to see how many internet points you rack up for disrupting a genuine discussion :D
in the first place, you are completly off topic here. You are discussing the leopard in the namer thread
Gaijin trying to not give only 3 nations usable top tier tanks Challenge Impossible
It’s my thread, for one. Secondly, talking about how the Leopard’s armor compares to the Merkava and Namer is completely Relevant.
you are derailing it in the same sense how the russians try to derail eurofighter threads and try to make it about their stuff
just no clue why you do that to your own thread
Look in a mirror and politely walk out of this thread :D
just saying how it is
Everything in the Namer and Merkava mk.4 family uses self limiting explosive reactive armor (SLERA) which it lacks in game. Overall the Namer and Merkava mk.4 should be on the same level as protection as the modern Russian MBTs, but I’ll never be able to prove it in a way that’ll satisfy their arbitrary historical report procedure.
If you guys want you can at least bump this one to get the Merkava mk.4s armour renamed to SLERA on the X-ray
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/LIdizwh2nDJ6
Gaijin also has the wrong weight in the merkava 4s. the idf has a video on its YouTube channel and in the thumbnail it says that the merkava 4 is 80 tons and not the 65 which gaijin says
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L8CuRaqmXEU&pp=ygUc15jXoNenINee16jXm9eR15Qg16HXmdee158gNA%3D%3D
The thumbnail says one crew moves an eighty ton tank
Why tf would you actively try and nerf the tank by adding an extra 15 tons of weight, making it by far the heaviest top tier MBT and crippling the Merkava’s already lacklustre mobility, not to mention the art of clickbait, a topic which has been around for years to make people, idk, click on appealing videos using big numbers and large statistics
Imagine a house. Put it on the tracks, install engine and armor…
You can find a photo of what the Russian ATGM did when he got on side the merkava. A huge hole appeared in the workplace of the driver.
Adding the 15 tons to the tanks weight would allow it to have better armor since one of the main reasons gaijin claims it’s armor is so thin is because the merkava is too big for the 65 tons of armor to have any thickness.
Secondly the video is only one source for its weight there is also a article on the Israeli news site named ynet that says the tank weighs 80 tons
https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/ryceiszyc
Also I don’t think the idf has many benefits to make clickbaity titles but even if so to most people even 60 tons for a tank would sound crazy heavy
Edit: also in the video from the idf it clearly states that the tank is 80 tons so it’s probably not a clickbait title