My J-10A and JF-17 performance impressions

JF-17
Has a very strong flight model, with a similar horizontal sustained turn rate to the F-16C but better low speed handling that approaches Mirage 2000 levels, it will be a very versatile dogfighter that will be able to capitalize on opponents’ mistakes. Think of it as a less stiff Gripen with slightly less energy retention.

The radar is good, with 20km ACM, it is similar to a F-16C radar but no HMD.
13.3 suits fine as it doesn’t have HMD or IRCCM missiles.

J-10A, the only non vtol fighter that is able to do cartwheels mid-air!
Acceleration of a F-16C with the top speed of a mirage 2k.

The turning performance is a bit weird, pulls very well at all speeds, even above mach, has good energy retention F-15A like, but if you get slow you behave like a flanker at slow speeds but you don’t have the nose authority with full controls.

However if you fight in verticals and stall in a loop, the J-10 canards can turn the aircraft nose down very fast and if you push it may start doing cartwheels.

Because of its flight characteristics, I think the J-10 should be competitive in a dogfight as long as you do counter 2C in verticals, it’s like a mig29 but better.

The radar is good, and turns almost 90º to the side which is a very strong characteristic for BVR and even short-range HOBS launches, since the missiles pull quite well. The only downside is the ACM or HMD lock range being limited to 10km (Edit, as pointed out by @Horizonwalker , the ACM/HMD lock range is actually 20km, so this radar might be the best in the game because you have all the convenience and reliability of a NATO radar with 85º angle like some late soviet radars)

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The pl5eii’s are currently just copy paste pl5c’s. They do have irccm.

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Seeing the J10A’s flight performance knowing that the Lavi which is lighter and has weaker weaponary which would put it at a lower br isn’t going to come anytime soon makes me really sad and disappointed

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The 10km HMD might be a typo as I was able to lock targets beyond 14km via HMD, gonna double check later.

Good observation, I was able to lock at 17km so it might be 20km limit aswell

Pretty sure they said the J10A doesn’t have it’s correct engine atm and should be getting the Mig29 engine. So it’s lacking alot of thrust that it should have.
I’d also like to mention that it only has 18 countermeasures in total??
Like WHY???
I hope it’s either a bug or is temporarily missing countermeasure pods but if it ships like this, it’ll be DOA.
Ain’t no way anyone can properly play in top tier with 18 counter measures.

Edit: Not the mig29 engine but the Su27 engine.
Although right now it has the Pratt & Whitney F100-PW-220 engine and not the AL31F

it has the AL-31F of the Su-27, not the MiG-29 engine

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the JF-17 has a derivative of the MiG-29s engine, the RD-33 → RD-93


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The current engine on the J-10 is named F100 PW220 but its thrust is at the AL-31F level, which makes me believe its name is just a place holder for now.

Yesterday I did several test flights witht the JF-17. Damn, that thing’s maneuverability is insane even for a MiG based modification

It is pretty light and seems to have a lot of wing/lift surface

The JF-17/FC-1 is indeed classified as a Light Multirole Jet fighter. Also to mention that is a relatively cheap jet compared to its counterparts

I am sure that this is not how should plane work xD:

Its turning to right itself and its really easy to reproduce this weird behavior. Just hold elevator and rudder in manual control, and after breaking the space-time, it starts behaving strangely like this.

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Yeah it is placeholder. In reality J-10A have AL-31FN.
https://ruslet.webnode.cz/technika/cinska-technika/letecka-technika/stihaci-letouny/j-10/

lmao

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Lol

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lmao try to do a vertical landing

I managed to lock it into a sideways flight with full controls, I kept doing circles at 200kph by flying sideways, new rate fight tactic unlocked

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Deja vu
I’ve just been in this place before (higher on the street)
And I know it’s my time to go
Calling you
And the search is a mystery (standing on my feet)
It’s so hard when I try to be me, whoa

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Yeah full controls. I just called it “manual control” because I forgot how it call in English :D