Mustang Mk IA (Great Britain) Excessive minimum fuel load?

Running away for 10 minutes straight doesn’t win matches. If your only advantage is avoiding the enemy, then that will get you nowhere.

Well you want to know what I usually do if I have a spitfire on my six? I dogfight it. I win about half the time and I’m not even a good player

Yep, Spitfire is an amazing dogfighter, it’s also faster than mustangs in most situations, and climbs far, FAR better. Mustangs can’t just dogfight if som1’s on its tail.

I mean yeah, it can. Do you even have the Mustang ia?

I don’t have the british cannonstang, only the American one. It’s a great dogfighter, and I’ve heard the british one is better, however there’s nothing you can do about 90% of Russian fighters, and Spitfires still beat you in almost every area.

You dont have the British one, speak for yourself. Its so much better in the horizontal, however, SOME planes you have to force the enemy into making mistakes.

If you take all the planes, then considering how the battles look, it would be enough for all the planes in the game, a supply of fuel within 30 minutes.
And that includes bombers.
But Gaijin once wrote that the amount of fuel is directly proportional to the controllability and speed of the airplanes…
So a lot of bombers that have minimal fuel for an hour or an hour and a half should suddenly have a higher speed and the battle would look completely different.
It would be nice to have a choice, a custom setting of the fuel supply, but I would never take more than 25 minutes, because the way battles look today, it is not even necessary…

Mustang Mk.Ia is a heavy brick on the ground (as for air RB, I don’t play the rest of the mod), climb sideways, to a height of around 3000 m and use the speed to descend on the enemy…
His cannons are close together, so a hit will be devastating quickly…

as a frequent Mustang IA user… I endorse this message. But the point i am trying to make is that if lets say i had minimum 20 minutes of fuel load, it could be a different story ok?

I agree a lot with all you said here… However about the last part of your message… A lot of times Xp-50 and USSR plane come down on me from the above and they wreck me so 3000 m is maybe not valid. And if i go above 4000m i am at a disadvantage. like wtf i have to risk it all on a 50/50 altitude like 3500 and if someone ends above me its GG?

It’s always good to learn a little about the history of the airplane…
Gaijin tries to stick to history, it doesn’t always succeed completely, but it does.
In short, this Mustang was used by the RAF mainly for tactical use (i.e. at low and medium altitudes, approx. 4500 m), it was tested as an escort for medium bombers, but this was easily handled by the Spitfire and as a fighter-bomber.
The RAF used them with Army Co-operation Command, it did not appear much with Fighter Command. He flew where it was usually flown up to 10,000 ft…
Raid on Dieppe and then North Africa, Mediterranean and Pacific to support ground troops.

The fact that they have to play against planes at higher altitudes is simply this game…

It had the option of carrying RP-3 unguided rockets, but it is not certain that they were regularly used. Only the Mk.III version carried bombs, but it is not in the game…
So it’s definitely not an aircraft that will dominate, rather it will be necessary to keep a high speed and wait for the other players to fall to the ground, or to lower heights - or to hunt ground equipment for short bursts from cannons, a short burst is usually devastating

time for gaijin and the devs to lower the (at least the air rb) battle rating from 3.7 to 3.3? Ok it has op guns and great out dive performance but thats about it for the pros … zeros are overtiered and a lot of Russian fighters and Spitfires still beat me in almost every area. If they cant address the issue by lower my minimum fuel load at least they have to lower the air rb battle rating a little bit more right? Either this or that, they decide. Even by 4 minutes lower i would be happy devs.

postscript: the bf 109 f4 is always better than the Mustang Mk IA except the top speed. (i know that is 4.0 battle rating and i am at 3.7 but only 0.3 difference? naaah come on gaijin you can do better, i hope you understand the point i am trying to make right?) Also “necessary to keep a high speed and wait for the other players to fall to the ground” is not what i consider a good plane that i payed for but oh well… it is classed as a fighter that should be at paper better than the us mustang since i payed it, not tactical use shenanigans

You bought a Mustang for CAS.
Direct support for ground troops, i.e. a machine suitable for ground forces mode, in air battles it is more demanding with this machine…

This is not a super Mustang, which, just because you paid for it, will surpass all the others…

The Mustang you want, in the premium version, is in the American technology tree with the designation P-51Dxxx… and you must be able to do this with this one too, I have them all and I play with them sometimes…

Another thing, you signed the agreement to the terms when installing the game and it says that Gaijin can modify the game and everything it contains as he wants, regardless of whether you paid anything…

There is good info here, on warthunder.wiki (I am attaching an article about the Mustang Mk.Ia), for possible further purchases…

Mustang Mk IA (Great Britain) - War Thunder Wiki

please tell me in which part that wiki says : OHHHH be careful you are gonna have 27 minimum fuel load. and only then i am gonna be “ok night trapper you are right that i didnt see that on my research for this plane”

Gaijin set it up like this and I’m afraid they won’t have the will to do anything about it…
If I remember correctly, they only changed the settings of a premium plane once, after a lot of complaints from players and that was the German P-47-D16 T-boldt…
It was absolutely dominant and had airstart… so they removed the airstart and increased the battle rating to 3.7 from 3.3

also now that i saw airstart… i can even argue that they can also do that. Either this or 3.3 br or 22 minutes of fuel load. If a dev someday wants to argue with me i can prove a lot of points why one of the three are needed for this mustang… i dont know about you night trapper but i feel like this mustang desperately needs some kind of mini buff for the air realistic battles AT LEAST