Who brought up SMT??
Not how that works
NOT AT ALL WHAT IM SAYING, I suggest you start reading instead of assuming you think you know what someone is talking about without doing it.
So you claim the mig21S is a 10.7 FM, the SMT is a 10.7 Fm which has a better engine and such.
thus the Mig21S is likely 10.0 or 10.3 however it has no CMs.
How I cant get a general basis on how a weaker engined mig21 works ?(like the chiense J7 at 9.0ish area)
Also a caveat if you respond to me saying this
“I have played against it in the likes of hte swift F7 and been okay.”
with this response
"No, you haven’t. . Stop comparing jets based on your personal biases collected through facing PLAYERS (see: NOT jets, players.) "
that means you are telling me I was infact not okay facing off against the mig21S in the swift F7.
to boot,
Wtf does this even mean
i reckon you need to take a chill pill and come back relaxed and formulate a proper sentence.
So let me see here.
I say this “through playing mutliple various Mig21s as well.”
and you tell me " Not how that works"
And my rebutle to that is.
“II’ve seen you comparing stuff in the past without having used it so lets not get ahead of ourselves here”
Is literally true, you have compared stuff on other threads without having touched them yet here say I am not allowed to?
Bit hypocritical mate.
As well as that, the mig21S is really not a 10.7 FM at all.
its max a 10.3 even that is pushing it massively.
Its got weaker engines than 10.3 mig21s. (which should be 10.7)
and has a pathetic choice of armerment as well as no counter measures.
Write something legible then
The SMT is currently 10.3. All I was/am saying here is that the 21S is of the 21MF/21SMT tier of capability (very similar to 21MF) rather than anywhere close to the lower tier MiGs FM.
Because unless you’ve flown 21SMT/MF or 21S, they fly differently from the rest.
What I am saying is your personal experiences don’t matter EVEN a tiny bit when you are trying to compare jets. ONLY the jets matter. You CANNOT cite what the average random player does in any given vehicle as your source as for why X thing is good or Y thing is bad.
You ASSUMED like three times what I was talking about without actually reading OR, if you were unsure, asking. You are 0 for 3.
You are still doing it. Completely in another zip code from the meeting.
Im saying here the SMT should be 10.7 realistically it is a 10.7 plane the fact its 10.3 is pretty bogus.
in which I agreed and mentioned compression above.
i have flown them Ive flown what is considered the bad mig21 platforms and the good ones.
Never disputed that though.
What are you on about 0 for 3 mate xD its a forum for discussing its not a debate parlour in which im that invested I merely do not understand what tf youre on about.
Hardly at all, you’re telling me I cannot compare the mig21S through my experiences in multiple mig platforms as well as implying that through not using hte mig21S specifically I cant remark on it.
when on other topics ive seen you do the exact same thing.
F-13 fuselage is competitive at 11.3, all it need was new wing
And engine.
as well as that 4 banging missiles.
Nah, the engine is not that much of an improvement from the regular R-13.
Its still * an improvement*
The double delta is also a massive upgrade, like huge.
But 11.3 it still sees F18s and F16s so the J7E aint all that RN
the improvement mainly is in wing sector. that’s all it need to turn it from just a fast plane to actually capable plane.
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Couldnt agree more, its a fantastic plane the J7E, imagine it had all aspects as well, would be a monster
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in the past there was a suggestion to replace J-7D with J-7G, basically J-7E with HMD and better missile. it got nowhere however.
They could add the damn J7G to the tree as well! or for a squadron air plane so who knows
I am going to play a match with the J35XS, and if it still sucks, I am going to say you have a skill issue.
I would like to say the same but 12CM is not cutting it. The FM is good but the main problem is still the amount of CM that it carry. Due to the nature of MM, it mostly meet 10.0-11.3 . I have not met any 9.3. So being at 10.3. Is actually fine, not great not terrible
Is it not ur problem? People have like 6.0 k/d with it. And there is nothing poor Q5s can do about u. The strongest plane u could get is perhaps J7E or F4E. Neither of which have a 1.0 BR worth advantage.
i’d rather have it removed and have better draken added as 12.3 premium.
i fly it without trying or using my brain and ive got like a 3kd in it, its utterly stupid and broken.
also extremely easy to dogfight with.
I too can have a 6.0 KD if I only targeted A-4Es. Six missiles, six bots, return to airfield and return to hanger
U don’t get K/D from killing bots. 6.0 k/d against players and 100k RP is more than achievable given that most things at its BR can do absolutely nothing about it.
Ai planes absolutely count towards k/d. Kill an ai and a normal player in a match. Your air kills will increase by +2.
They count as ground targets in a match but once over it transfers to air kills post match
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