Magic 2s are all-aspect irccm missiles which are really hard to be flared while bro is comparing it with pl5b…
because they are neither all aspect or IRCCM
also the engine performance is like the one part of the mirage F1 flight model that is good
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Mirage 2000 cs5 at 12.3 with 2 x 530D and 2 x magic 2 and much better engine and radar. Another Sample F16A at 12.0 with much better engine, radar and radar missiles. Futhermore, Remove magic 2s it should be 10.7
Seriously, the f16 with the lowest br is at 12.3 with only aim9l
the cs5 is 12.7, the cs4 is 12.3 and has very few countermeasures
and the f16a is 12.3 as well, and I dont think anyone has ever claimed that to be balanced at the BR that it is at
one years ago its hard to be flared(I have a mirage cs4). One update in the last year have made it easier for the Magic 2 to go off target.
So it could be balanced if Mirage F1C add 2 x 530 d and move to 12.3
probably, but i dont beleive it ever used it
The problem now is that the F1C is powerless against the MIG23 ML, F4S, F18A or even the J8F. They have better radar and radar missiles that can dominate the first wave head to head. F1C’s RWR doesn’t even warn for many missiles.
then avoid the first wave head to head
Just now, my magic 2 was flared to the R60M fired by the mig 23. Anyone who thinks F1C because the magic 2 with IRCCM is on 12.0 should try it
Just now, my magic 2 was flared to the R60M fired by the MIG 23. I fired the magic 2 from the 4 o’clock of Mig 23. With 2 magic 2s shouldnt at 12.0
Mirage 2000 CS5 is 12.7.
F-16A is 12.3 and uses far worse missiles than the Mirage F-1C, F-16A also has no radar missiles.
Mirage F-1C is among the 12.0s that is an example of what 12.0 should be.
J-8F is 13.0 and under-BR’d.
Mig-23ML has an identical radar, and far worse IR missiles.
F-4S has far worse IR missiles similar airframe.
F-18A is 12.3 and under-BR’d, which I called on the dev server it was on.
F-16A is probably fine at 12.3, it’s IR missile only and fires AIM-9Ls instead of Magic 2s or AIM-9Ms.
indeed this is an annoying feature, only solution is to be even more patient
Yes.
it would’ve happen if it didn’t had Magic 2
F1C might be overrated a bit, but not in level of buffing it down.
Because it is not F1C’s fault but these compression, and shamelessly undertiered American jets’ fault.
If it happened ‘just now’, it’s probably a bug since my aam3 also frequently doesn’t know where it is this morning, which didnt happen before the update
The F1C 200 is like, the most appropriately tiered premium in the game atm? Offensively it’s mixed between meh SARHs, and two of the best IRs at the BR by far. Defensively its RWR is a little lacking, but it still has great survivability from the insane countermeasure amount. And its flight model is fairly decent all around.
The plane has things it trades off, but it does so in such a way it still ends up being a fairly well rounded all around plane. It has no reason to drop in BR, especially not to 11.3
Even aside from how fitting it is up at it’s current BR, moving it down would have major problems. At 11.3 you’d be able to fight flareless jets. Which would just be unnaceptable to have some of the highest G all aspect missiles in the game fighting flareless jets.
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Given stuff like the Tornado Gr4 and Mirage 2000D are 12.3 with 2x IRCCM missiles. The F1C-200 is doing exceptionally well at 12.0 already
I hope that we are not going to see ‘BuT tHEy aRE AtTacKERS!’ response. :|
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*12.7