+1, But we need the MiG-25 first.
Absolute beauty +1
Dunno if I agree with that, with the MiG-25 having no cannon, no countermeasures, no PD radar, being less maneuverable but even faster. It’s in a really weird spot being a hyperspecialized high altitude bomber interceptor, compared to the multi-target platform of the MiG-31.
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Maybe it can be a 10.0 squadron vehicle or something.
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Is the R 37 larger than the AIM 54?
Just barely taller and heavier, same diameter and a much smaller wingspan
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No pls no squadron vehicle, this needs to be tt. In my opinion squadron vehicle isbthe place for vehicles like the f117 that are special, funny but not meta etc
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solution make it a sqaudron like f117 useless but there
mig 25 would be sqaudron not mig 31
Hmm maybe. Though I think of the MiG-25 is added there should be at least one TT version, just because of its historical significance and how many versions there were.
MiG-25PDS is literally only missing cannon, which is not needed anyway.
PDS has no cannon, Saphir-25 radar with MTI and not PD (essentially Saphir-23 from MiG-23) and no countermeasures, those only being mounted on the PDSL and PDSG prototypes. I was wrong about short-range missiles though, I forgot about the R-60 conversion.
Because the MiG-23MLs radar is sooo weak…
They have, just not in Soviet service, which would not prevent them from receiving CM in-game.
Again… Don’t need a cannon anyway. Only needed by people too stupid to set up proper missile shots.
yes… yes it is. It only has MTI in a dive and below ~1.2km
Again, not on interceptor models. Only bomber and recon.
You don’t need MTI mode and certainly not if they ever correct IRST functionality.
And the US F-15A has ALE-45 CM, but somehow not ALE-58. It also doesn’t really matter as even a single PDS airframe carrying the BVP-50-60 is all that is required for an A/C to have them in-game.
You need to realize, it doesn’t matter if it is not the most hyper-meta dogfighter that rules ARB. It provides a missing capability to the USSR air tree in having significantly more long-range, head-on engagement magazine depth.
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For a long-range interceptor highly dependent on its radar missiles it very much is disadvantaged by a lack of PD radar, which again was my original claim. At least at any BR where it won’t simply smoke everything else by pure speed
You need to realize this vehicle would be simply unbalanceable. People already complain about something like the F-104s- now imagine an aircraft 50% faster, less maneuverable, with missiles of excellent range but awful guidance radar and agility, and on top of all that no countermeasures. It’d be simultaneously helpless and uncatchable, useless and outranging everything. Instead there are much more viable and well-rounded vehicles, from the MiG-31 to the Su-15 that won’t be so hyperspecialized as to be game-breaking.
There is no reason to suggest a MiG-25(PDS) would go any higher in BR than the F-4E or MiG-23M(L). Its slower than most of its contemporaries at low altitude.
A larger R-24R/T is not game breaking, nor awful.
Just straight up wrong.
The point of the MiG-25 in-game to essentially be able to carry 2-4 R-24R/Ts (R-40RD/TD). You might have no use for this, but those trying to cull the herd of RB-tourist zombers in ASB certainly do.
I also want the MiG-31, but that will sit at too high of a BR to be useful against F-111A or F-4 spam.
Then don’t fly low altitude. While I agree on that BR assesment it also just makes the issues of its speed and climb rate more extreme.
15g overload and 4g target overload- pretty poor. Comparable to something like an AIM-7D, not an R-24.
You have yet to provide any sources for countermeasures on the PDS. Your arguments consist of “trust me bro” and “let’s just make it up”
Regardless, why don’t you go make a suggestion for the MiG-25 instead of crying over it on a suggestion for a different vehicle?
Those are not the numbers I have seen, nor the ones on the discussion thread.
Your own comment literally states the PDSL… Which is just a PDS further modernized, which is all the Devs need for a realistic implementation in-game.
Strange, I thought there already was one yet can’t find it now. Guess I can take care of that this evening. Either way I’ll talk about it anytime I see someone spewing about the Foxbat not having a place in-game. And it certainly has a point in a discussion about the Foxhound as that is just even farther in the hyper-specialized role regardless of the useless inclusion of a gun on the airframe.
I’ll just direct you here: ☭History, Design & Performance of All Russian Air-to-Air Missiles (IR, SARH, ARH)☭ - #3 by MaMoran20
Higher maneuverability, countermeasures (ignoring your delusions about the MiG-25 having countermeasures), R-33s, PESA radar, and the cannon. A competent BVR platform still able to defend itself at close range and with a comparable counterpart in the F-14. Compared to the fastest combat aircraft ever built and otherwise a relatively useless vehicle.