Trust and believe ong
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Yep tests against that chart show a very large underperformance at lower speeds and a bit of a over performance at high speeds. Only trouble with it is it doesn’t list a specific weight, but one would assume its for the same 13000 mass as the proceeding charts in the section, and throughout the rest of the manual. I did want to do tests at even lower fuel loads even down to 0% before i reported on it just to give no wiggle room, but never got around to doing it unfortunately - tho i suspect it would continue underperforming even at low fuel loads. Thats my testing i did for reference in case u hadnt seen it, i know it got thrown around a while ago tho so maybe u have already;
I guess since someone has reported with that chart now, maybe no harm in throwing that in there if u wanted haha. Tests at 13000 mass with clean wings at 2k alt and i believe margins were (±100m alt), ±0.1g, ±5m climb rate with vast majority datapoints up to 6g an average of at least 3 separate SEP readings. Just bear in mind however, that was before they added the AoA button and tweaked some stuff with a bunch of jets, tho i can’t imagine it would affect the SEP much since those were mostly to do with stability stuff at high AoA if i remember correctly.
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No, it isn’t. It’s an R-27ER.
Anyone seen North Korea is equipping their MiG-29s with PL-11 and PL-12?
Still don’t understand why russia have the heaviest variants of the MiG-29 (9-13 is roughly 175kg heavier than 9-12 and the SMT is well, and SMT). The 9-13 in game doesn’t have the benefits of the 9-13 irl (ECM and correct me if I’m wrong, the ability to use the 27ER) I think USSR should recieve a 9-12 as ECM is probably not in the game developers minds at the current time. Dev server FM, remove 27ER from every 29 (unless 9-13 did use them), give them R-73s instead of R-60Ms
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An opinion widely shared since the addition of the plane and yet it offers the company no money to do so unless it is a premium.
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9.13S used them. Not 9.13 if I am not mistaken.
Russia has the 9-13 instead of the 9-12 because that is the variant they widely used
The initial Mig29 models were not able to carry the 27er, the biggest reason why is that the mig-29 entered service before the 27er and that the 27er was primarily used on the Su27 instead, ontop of that they needed an avionics upgrade Iirc.
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9.13S was the modernised variant fitted with R77s I believe
yes but it was also able to use the r-27er after it was modernised
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As far as I can tell, it doesn’t seem to be a PL-12:
1- For example, I think I see a clear difference in wing construction (Unless some other variant of PL-12 has a similar wing construction):
2- Also the windows for the TDD / proximity fuze seem to be long and longitudinal on the PL-12, while they are short and lateral on the North Korean missile.
So I think it’s likely that the external design was “inspired” by PL-12 (Like Fakour-90’s external design was by AIM-54).
Or perhaps the Chinese gave them some help with the design and some components; Though I find it unlikely as the Chinese don’t like the North Koreans very much …
My overall guess?
The external design was inspired by PL-12, but internally it probably / possibly uses some R-77 components …
None of their stuff is brand name, it’s what was at home in the fridge. Still just a PL-12 equivalent.
AFAIK R-27ER was given to PVO as a priority, which MiG-29 is not generally used in and Su-27 is.
Good to know, I didn’t knew why, I just knew that it was mostly/ only used on the Su27
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It made no sense to equip the MiG-29 with a weapon that outranged the radar.
In retrospect, it may have been useful to have a weapon with better time to target, but that is something they probably hadn’t considered necessary.
No MiG-29 FM fixes?
There was never any expectations for fixes, so no
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Not really that simple, in a similar way to the 9M33M3 outranging the Osa-AKM guidance system.
Range is just energy, but that energy can be used in other ways. Against manoeuvring targets especially.