Stepanovich usually reads the forums and replies often. The others seem to make decisions that have me questioning if they play the game or not.
It’s marked “not a bug” but I’ve requested Smin forward further information.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/H409F96xHyZa
@Smin1080p any updates?
I think we should make another one about the whole new MiG-29 flight model, this one is about it not reaching the right degrees of AoA, the most important problem right now is that it bleeds speed worse than a MiG-21 bis
I will need more sources, information about the flight model in “post-critical” AoA
Yeah, the problem with MiGs is that information is hard to get and is almost always all written in Russian
Anyway I’m currently testing rate times with the same altitude and comparable loads (20 min fuel, 2 r27Rs and 4 R60s) to the ones that are in the “aerodynamics of MiG29”, since they seem to usually trust that source… hopefully they’ll accept it even with only this source tough (usually they require 2), since I didn’t find anything else apart from it
You don’t need second source for primary source (manual)
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glad to hear it !
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Is this really the main thread for all RU Mig29 on the new forum?
Yes
Well here’s to the old thread
Anyway I agree SMT is awful to fly and even spaded it’s difficult to enjoy the R-73s when a single horizontal pull takes away 300+ knots. Meanwhile F16 needs to do an immelmann at least to lose this much.
It’s russian though so I’m sure a buff is in the works. Personally I’m hoping for a surprise like we got with the ER. Maybe R27-EM and a slight FM buff? 27EA would be nice to recover some high alt BVR capability, since the RWR changes the ER sucks at that job. and it lost range
İ dont think SMT needs better armament, fixing current flight model will be more then enough.
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the surprise for the smt was the r73 tho…I’d rather have the FM fixed for all 29s than a new bvr missile, r27er still is the best sarh missile rn
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There is nothing wrong with the FM. It’s accurate to the manuals.
from what i know, the 29 before the patch was almost accurate, but still was underperforming in noose authority and AoA, after the patch it’s worse and now it bleed speeds like a delta wing, but the best person to talk about the mig29’s performance is @MiG_23M
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Its really not if you look at the aero manual
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though the MiG-29 nerf wouldnt be so bad if the F-16s didnt also get a massive buff that lead to comical performance
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Would the EA be weaker in WVR fights? More sensitive to chaffs and notch maybe?
Personally I think the ER is currently too strong at short to medium range but too weak at long range
Not even close.
Manuel states that Mig29 9.12 and 9.13 should perform similiar against F-16 in terms of energy management and rate fight but right now both plane rates worse then Phantom while bleeding energy like a delta design.
Not to mention 29 should be better in high speed engagements where F-16 should suffer but right now everything sits at opposite position.
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R27EA is even more stronger then ER buddy.
İts basically Fox-3 version of R27 with 120km range.