Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

Why is SMT the BLACK SHEEP that needs 25 fixes and patches day after day while F-16C gets released as S+ tier UFO :D (ง ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)ง

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SMT has the best BVR missile and R-73s just got a range buff.

I’m using it and it seems pretty strong.

It will be interesting to see how Gajjin handles the soviets fighter branches. So far we really only have two lines going to top tier, with the Yak and Mig’s. If the Mig line turns into the Su line with the flanker, than it will be a bit weird, because then the Migs will take a back seat as they add more flankers

YAK will be mostlikely for all naval variants and the current mig will most likely split into two

imo, they should move Su-7, 17 in Su-6, 25 tree and use current Su-7, 17 tree for Sukhoi fighters and interceptors.

Agreed, it would actually turn it into sort of a proper interceptor line imo and would add a line for things like the Su-9/11/15 to go before the Flankers

Should the mig29 perform worse than the f14b?

no its just overnerfed

I’m expecting the Su-27 to go after the Su-17M4 tbh.

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afaik it’s mostly correct…

hardly pulls any aoa has wrong thrust loses too much speed

@SlowHandClap The truth is MiG-29SMT (9-19) armed R-74M, R-77-1 and R-77M like MiG-29KR (9-41) but gajin could be available in 3 or 4 years and not this year

idk if what ur saying is correct cuz ppl around this forum already done a ton of research trying to fix the mig29 and make it accurate, they apparently managed to do so. I thought that the plane would be one of the best vehicles for dogfighting purposes, in the end it’s like the mod that i forgot the name said, it’s completely carried by it’s missiles

iirc, the 29 does pull the right amount of AoA and rate similar to charts. It may be missing some thrust at low speed tho if I remember correctly. You may ask @MiG_23M As far as dogfighting goes it’s good, rates well except at low speed and has enough AoA to be scary at all speeds.

Maybe in sim it performs better, in RB it’s kinda mediocre

K-77M still in development, not produced, we don’t see final k-77m, only blurred on T-50, and layout R-77 with classic fins on MAKS 2021

We dont know the current state though K-74M2 (now R-74M2) has entered service/production and it was meant to enter service in a similar timeframe as K-77M so maybe K-77M is in service. Either way by the time stuff like that is ready for the game enough time will have passed it’ll probably be accepted officially

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I have felt that for a while now they need too rearrange the way the Soviet air tree splits. With the way thaings are going, were only going too have one main fighter line despite all the variants, so they should atleast break up the Su and MIG fighters, and like some people have said, make the yak line the naval line.

Since you are probably referring to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxNl5uHASLs&t=2s

F-14 is rating slightly too good (I don’t have the time to do a bug report now thought and any way imho there are planes overperform more than it):
it does 16.36 deg/sec https://youtu.be/bus4lzORTgg at 1524m (5000feet), 300kt and 25228kg (55260pounds), while it should do about 15.5 deg/sec.

Regardless of that, the problem with the MiG-29 is not that it the flight model is overnerfed, the problem is the instructor. With full real controls it can pull harder than the F-14 and basically rate equally (it would rate better if F-14 wasn’t slightly over performing) at optimal speed with 20 min fuel. Meanwhile with the current instructor the MiG-29 is already past the AoA at which is efficient and is not pulling very hard either when compared to what it can.

Also the guy that was flying the MiG-29 in the video was going for R-73 shots that usually do hit normal battles, but even when doing 1v1s with a friend I felt countermeasures were kinda stronger on custom battles (nothing to back up this last thing I said, could very well be wrong), which meant he was not flying optimally for a guns fight.

Edit: 20 min fuel for both is also a bit unfair towards the MiG-29 as a fuel level. MiG-29 consumes MUCH less than an F-14 at lower speeds (it only burns more when going fast as the rd33 thrust curve is very aggressive), and, even with same time (for example 15 minutes on both), the lower the fuel the more the MiG-29 is going to improve on the F-14, as it will be losing an higher percentage of what was his previous total mass (which means bigger improvement in thrust to weight and bigger improvement in centre of mass position)

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cool info, i completely forgot about the instructor.