If can stop talking about the F16 for one second. That is essentially what a lot of people want. A COD Mig29. In reality, it not nearly as good at rate fighting as the F16. Just as the F16 is not nearly as good at high alpha pre & post stall maneuvers.
They are two completely different fighters. unfortunately, the F16 is the better design in that it maintains its energy in a dogfight while the Mig29 is designed to dump all of it’s energy in exchange for nose authority. The soviets even designed a missile specifically for that doctrine. The R73. They even designed a HMS for it.
That is reality and history. There is nothing more to it. The mig29 is never going to rate on par with the F16. GJ will not do it. They know aircraft designs. We never give them credit.
Yes the mig29 is not designed to maintain energy like that of the F16, chief. That was not the dominant design priority like that of the F16.
They are two drastically different fighters based on different doctrines and philosophies. omg lol here he needs to prove himself again. You need sources, right?
it is enough to look at the graph of the longitudinal overload and see that in the speed range from 700 to 1100 km / h, the aircraft is able to accelerate
He’s very well aware of the performance of both aircraft. Once again, he is derailing the thread by feigning some ignorance on something that he knows will bait in a number of replies.
The F16 was designed specifically on energy maneuverability not much else. While the Mig29 and more the Su27 did as well one can argue. But they were also designed to maintain high alpha capability. That was their doctrine. You cannot have the best of both worlds especially without fly-by wire and advancements in avionics. Which the Su27 did. Not so much the mig29
That is why @MiG_23M is all upset because he sees the F16 doing things it should not do in a high alpha regime.
No pilot who has flown both agrees with you. No country wants mig29s lol. No one is upgrading them. Not the Russians. Its obsolete. But we can pretend they are equal here for you.
At the onset, F-16 had no radar missiles and otherwise was not very useful. MiG-29 was much preferred with its’ R-73 and BVR capability. Let’s not forget the F-16 lacked these things.
It was only after the collapse of the Soviet Union and subsequent increase in technological performance of the F-16 that people started buying them in bulk. Upgrade programs like the MLU that brought them up to par with other modern gen4 fighters is what kept them in service.
Had the MiG-29 been upgraded similarly (and in many respects it has)… more people would have bought it. It doesn’t help that along with it are other more modern light fighters that now do the job better… but again… your agenda is showing.
Whaat?Su-27 and MiG-29 again.They were designed to conduct highly maneuverable combat at high angles of attack.at a speed of 650 or more, the Su-27 will have no equal except the MiG-29M.
Because it was designed to be a knife fighting dogfighter with IR missiles and never lose energy. That was the Mafia’s vision “The Blitz fighter”. That is how it performed. That is why the F16 performs so much better armed with just IR missiles and drastically worse with sparrows. GJ knows what they are doing.
The FM is just spiced up to a video game standard. Like everything else.
so bad that the Germans kicked the ass of the F-16 and F-18
and many more countries continue to exploit them.There is no money in Russia to pull 2 types of fighters.Although the MiG-35 is able to compete with everyone
What’s a Mig35? Yeah everyone is tripping and falling over themselves to buy that… poor combat radius (major reson everyone hates the Mig29) when you can just buy a Flanker… Every country that had mig29s either ended up buying Flankers or wish they bought Flankers.