Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

Just watching you guys until someone leak a docs so i can steal it…

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i see you know nothing about this project

Quite curious words for someone who was saying it was ready for mass production, no?

it’s funding was almost entirely halted by '95, only a year after it was first test driven on a runway, not even flown at that point.

Hell the plane didn’t even fly till the turn of the century, on February 29th, 2000.

Do YOU know anything about this project?

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From this material
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then i dont understand your question
start of drawning in 1971 does not mean that the enginge will not change due development process

there is no test drives in 1995, the jet is never buit because first prototype was built in 1991
USSR is dead in 1991
the i-90 program is dead in 1991

RD-33 at that time didn’t even finish stand trials. Who in his right mind would copy an engine that isn’t even tested yet? And this is if we completely ignore entirety of information from this book
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that has entire section about AL-31F development where it gives all the information that prooves that AL-31F is an original design.

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February 29th, 2000, 1st flight

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April 27th, 2000, 2nd flight

I must’ve been thinking of something else my bad.

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No probs, i really was surprised to hear about hundreds of test flights. Especially considering that AL-41F on that prototype had comically small service life.

if i see su27 or sukhoi word i dont thrust

no

he also has same bypass ratio and same overral pressure ratio

Yes, that’s why I said it’s funding was halted in '95, a YEAR AFTER it was first test driven in December of 1994.

The first and only prototype’s assembly was completed in early 1994.

Due to the collapse of the soviet union, funding was severely cut in 1995, leaving 1.44 to be sent to a hangar to rot till 1998 when it was presented as an attraction at an airshow (likely MAKS or something) as an attempt to get attention from high brass to regain funding, which it didn’t.

Again, I think you don’t get the right to say someone has no clue about it.

so now we are going for personal preferences. Then link a source from where you got that random table that doesn’t even elaborate on why it says so but you for some reasone believe it unquestionably.

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ok, this is a kindergarten level of arguments. It has similar numbers so it was developed from it.

  1. no
  2. there is no i-90 program after 1991

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and money its not the main problem after 1991

i was sended you two big proofs of similarities
the bypass ratio is proof to

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first you tell me is :

dispute is over

This is no proof. You still haven’t sent a source from where you got this table. And the schemes of both engines have enough differences to don’t even take your words seriously. So either link a full source or stop saying complete nonsense

There isn’t really anything classified about the fulcrum nowadays

  1. no
  2. there is no i-90 program after 1991

1.44’s only prototype wasn’t assembled in early 1994?
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miss
and money its not the main problem after 1991

And money was the main problem, seeing as it was almost entirely cut in '95 leading to the stagnation and eventual cancellation of the MFI program? You can’t exactly develop a program without funding?
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Either way none of what you’ve said points to ANY SEMBLANCE of MFI being ready for production…

MiG-31*

Tehcnically this is interceptor. At least by USSR classification.

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Technically anything is a fighter if you believe enough.

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Can confirm. Air superiority Su-24 and Su-17M4 have a special place in my heart.

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