was looking at the line for weapons so include weight and drag of R-27s and R-60s
Performance of the line that includes R-27s and R-60s is lower.
E.G 5000m (16404ft) and 740km/h (400kt)
German one is doing 6G,
Russian one with missiles is doing 5.5G
Russian one without missiles is doing 6.3G
At 500kph instead Russian one with missiles does 3.3G, German one 3.5G, Russian one clean 3.6G
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We want it to perform according to the manuals, and real life… as you know but instead you claim it’s a stealth buff that a bug report using primary sources was acknowledged and that they fixed it as they said they would.
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Last test for today lol… total mass = 13050 kg
203kt, ~375kph, 22,17 seconds total turn time, 16,23 deg/sec.
German manual Gs at that speed: 3,25G, horizontal overload 3,09 G, turn time should be 21,58 seconds, 16,7 deg/sec.
Aircraft slightly underperformed, I don’t think 0.5 deg/sec is only caused by 200m altitude and 50kg weight difference.
Just noticed tough the German manual says “Acceleration” and not force (and aircraft is not accelerating upwards), and the figures in the Russian manual are for Ny, which in game seems to be the horizontal component… If we take 3.25G as fully horizontal then MiG-29 is underperforming quite a bit: STR would be 20,53 seconds, with 17,54 deg/sec rate speed.
Yes, the plane is lagging far behind, Firstly, the plane is still able to accelerate at such an overload and speed.The manual indicates an angle of attack of 24 degrees. You also need to try to hold it
That’s for the Russian manual… I tried many times pulling 24G and in general rating at 1000m so I can use it… the problem is that it’s too difficult without a stick at that altitude to even stay remotely consistent at speeds under 450km/h, let alone staying constantly at 24 degree AoA.
If anyone here (maybe someone who has a stick) can manage to do that it would certainly be great, but I’ve tried many times and was unable to
24G lol
I have a stick, I’ll give it a go later … not sure if they keep it level with rudder, or just bank angle. If so, will drastically affect the dynamic.
Yeah, I think I had enough war thunder testing for today lol
Just bank angle would be great, but if rudder imputs are minimal it shouldn’t create that much of a problem.
It’s possible to use trim to get correct sustained turns and control roll with your mouse to get it to make a sustained turn… unless for some reason it has instability or adverse yaw at that AoA (shouldn’t)…
Yes but first you need it to get it to the desired speed, altitude, bank and AoA, which is hella hard (we’d probably need to calculate it (apart from AoA lol), and then you need to find trims that will make you keep those values…
I didn’t see any patch notes released by GJN?
It’s a shame you don’t want the same for NATO jets. Or are you going to make me look through the old forums to find you insisting that the F-16 didn’t have a G limiter and the plane was just bad?
here we are talking about the mig-29, the F-16 will also get a turn
Not trying to be his advocate but MIG_23M was one of the few guys who insisted that the R73 wasn’t necessary back when the fulcrum was added while 90% of russian mains were begging for the missile (i myself wanted Gaijin to add the first version presented on the first devserver of Apex Predators and complained a lil bit in the forums), he’s pretty unbiased from what i saw. It’s just a fact that the mig29 is sluggish rn (did you even try to rate with that thing?) and this forum is dedicated to it, he like me just want the plane to behave how it should, a supermaneuverable aircraft, we aren’t asking for op stuff, hell, you can take the 27ER and the op radar away, nobody ever asked for their addition anyway.
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told you it will be the turn of the F-16 and F-14 and F-15 in the future.We have F-14 pulls 11G when in real life could only 7.5
I don’t know what was said in the old forum, but as far as I know he has never asked nerf that were not historical, and he also did bug reports to improve NATO and non Soviet aircraft too:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/jM9ehnxndf2V
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/9GTye85vKeO8
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/qXZgF5fLYEAe
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/Z7sS4gX0q73o
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/WaAKkG8tTPbW
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We have max G structural limits, not operational limits in war thunder. F-14 pulling 11G is fine
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in reality, 11.25 is already the destruction of the structure, plastic deformations have occurred on 11.Re-entering such an overload would destroy the structure. this applies to all aircraft when the overload limit is suitable.in addition to the MiG-29, he has a slightly different situation.You won’t tear off the wing even at 15G.It will break down in another place
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I understood the little boy with the candy. you just don’t want the F16 UFO to be taken away from you like candy from a child and come to insult everyone on this topic without normal discussion
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Let’s just forget this shit guys, this forum is becoming Reddit-like…
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Guys, just use report button under message and don’t care about such people
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