These pilots also sometimes say absurd shit.
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There is a saying that fits this situation: ’ A man must use his head.
I have a friend who was at Constant Peg, but I don’t want to ask him about something like that…
What do you think about the performance and maneuverability of the MiG 29?
Constant peg pilots often quoted absurdities about the performance and maneuverability of the MiG-23 because that was all they were told and followed strict guidelines on wide turn circles and primarily using only the acceleration from the engine to fight. These strict guidelines kept them from actually experiencing the planes, and the reasoning was not because that is all they could do… it was because they did not have the parts to maintain them if something broke.
The maneuverability of the MiG-23MLD as quoted by an F-16 pilot from Europe who fought against them was only slightly inferior in two circle than the F-16. It was said to have better vertical energy retention and zoom capability, though.
All of this anecdotal evidence means nothing though, we have the flight manuals and they have been configured as such in the game… for the most part. The F-16 is certainly far from realism and so is the MiG-23 series --not due to the EM charts, but because the aerodynamic model itself is rubbish.
I mean, we are talking about the game that cannot model instability and has F-16’s doing cartwheels on demand and recovering in a quarter turn.
So what do I think of the MiG-29? I think it matches the charts but falls short doing the actual listed aerobatic maneuvers in the other manual. It cannot maintain the speeds suggested for basic loops or turns at safe but low altitudes for airshow displays. Something is clearly off, most likely the energy loss at low to medium AoA range. They have no way to model the slight instability during pitch up.
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Only the best pilots made it to Constant Peg, don’t judge by a few videos.
The MiG 23s at Constant Peg were BT and S types, basically old clunkers. Logically, they were unreliable.
Otherwise, the -23 was an excellent aircraft for its time. I like the ML and MLD versions, but the MF is also nice-looking. Now, I’m sure a lot of people will say that the Flogger was bad because… but that’s a longer story.
I was thinking more about what your opinion is on the -29 in the real world.
FM in WT is more like an arcade game…
I do not underestimate the MiG 23 ML/MLD at all; when piloted correctly, it was very maneuverable and powerful. Its avionics were also good for its intended use, which was guidance by personnel from ground stations.
from what i have heard the mig cant designate the GPS cordinats by itslef easily and it has to be done by the ground crew
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i saw one time they use ipad to guide their gps weapons.
let me find it
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I really hope we get a new Fulcrum soon, they’re such pretty planes and it’s a shame Russia gets the worst ones.
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Reminds me that recently I checked out the unpainted camo of the P-63A-10 and it looked cleaner than literally every top tier jet and I found this hilarious
Also yeah the MiG-35S is overdue
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iam pretty sure that the designation is just Mig-35 without the S
fixed it
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depends on which one, the 2016 models for the Russian VKS are mostly referred to as MiG-35S/MiG-35UB 9-41SR/9-47SR, while the MiG-35/MiG-35D is mostly seen advertised as for the hypothetical export models also they still probably use the 9-61/9-67 designation on export units aswell
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Su-35S isn’t that overdue considering how the Su-30SM2 is implemented.
I think Balta’s right, like for the Su-35 the MiG-35S is the base model of the Russian air force and the MiG-35 is the export name
Add all Su’s that have ever been made before a single new 29✅
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it should have been the Su-35S instead of a half baked 30SM2
and it is basically garantueed that the Su-35S will come in the near future since BVVD said that we will only get next gen IR missiles once everyone has a plane with a MAW
they probably already had the x-ray model for the Irbis laying around due to them working on the Su-35S
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Sure thing, I’d just like to highlight that the MiG-35S was already due before the eurocanards and we kept getting more and more flankers without a single new Fulcrum. But indeed the implementation choices are very poor overall