Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-29 Fulcrum - History, Design, Performance & Dissection (Part 1)

Need a WRTI

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İ dont trust a single word coming from developers tbh.

Especially when they say its not priority, cause that usually means they are actually developing whatever they are denying.

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Fair enough

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The alpha looks accurate there, ~29 degrees peak and -22 for the low. This isn’t the “maximum alpha” rather the sustainable AoA before wing rock onset and other instabilities for the most part.

In real life the flight control system has that 26 degree limiter (which you can exceed), but it should exhibit instabilities beyond that point and it does.

The F-16 had a similar limit irl (25°) but due to the relaxed static stability it is much more dangerous to exceed those limits for fear of departure. When I am back at my PC I can pull up the F-16’s for comparison (if you’d like).

If you believe it is missing lift, the lift coefficients are there also.

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Can you show the Mig29 suffers from instability sustaining alpha at ~29 degrees peak and why it should be limited to such in game. ty

Do you need me to explain why the flight control system limited AoA at a maximum of 26 degrees? I already did that.

The MiG-29 actually had too much instability at such AoA previously which I covered when I put in the report that fixed that.

Did I ask that? I dont need you to explain zip.

I need documentation.

Read the manual. We’ve shared it for you multiple times and you’ve not once yet referenced it. You already know all my comparisons and reports required the use of the manual as a primary reference.

Wait you cannot post exactly where it is? but you like to sniff out like a little rat the exact sentence and graph showing lift coefficient?

While your at it, answer the question.

What part of the statement do you agree with and which part don’t you agree with?

So, you believe the Mig29 model is perfect (don’t make me bring up the quote) you based that off Gio’s testing. He also states the F-16C is not over performing by any means.

So, the Fulcrum series is just simply an inferior aircraft of the Russian Federation?

It’s so inferior it needs R27ERs? Is that it?

That is essentially what you have been saying the entire time without directly doing so lest you be disregarded completely.

I guess you two are going to start arguing as usual, let me get my popcorn

popcorn-drama

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Honestly

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Interesting,

The Fulcrum is so inferior and under the shadow of the F-16C they can only give it Aim7M (F) sparrows it never carried operationally? It’s so inferior and under shadow of the M2k that they must give it Super530Fs it never carried operationally either lest they both utterly dominate the Fulcrum even further?

You believe the Mig29 is perfrectly modelled and will not dare comment on Gios statement that the F-16C is not over performing by any mean.

Just come out and say it that the Fulcrum is an inferior fighter to the West. So we can stop wasting our time and beating around the bush.

Its a simple request.

Professor Datamine?

Do you just have quotes from way back ready for anything? Something is always brought up to start a new argument and it’s just comical at this point.

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Well he didn’t ask BB to source his claims (none of them have sufficient evidence for a report). Asks me to source why the aircrafts own FCS limits it at 26°…

Fact of the matter is that Ziggy will never make a report or do anything to further real discussion and help fix anything.

He’s really good at making childish insults at the bottom of his posts tho.

It was late af. He also does not argue and flip flop his position like you do.

He and Gio already has a level of integrity you lack completely.

Show US where the 9-13 has a FCS limit of 26°. Its a simple request.

I’m sorry, zig, but what’s comical is your obsession with continuing to argue with mig23m over and over again just because you two don’t agree on something, at some point this need to stop, is not helping to solve any issues related to the mig29 or any other weapon/aircraft in this game since i saw u even going at the r73 thread and keep arguing with mig23m but now about the r73.
like i said one time…just chill a little bit…

I simply asked him for comfirmation and he dances around it. I cannot post anything indicating the Mig29 is underperforming. No one can. So I jam him up for details.

How is this wrong. Do you believe the Mig29 is perfect?

I don’t, you quoted me before and after a fix to the FM. Literally just hurting your own credibility.

Go read the manual. It’s almost common knowledge that the flight control system has an AoA limit of 26° (later increased to 28-30 on later models).

You certainly won’t if you can’t read the manual. How are you gonna state that it’s underperforming and you aren’t even aware of the flight control limitations?

What was fixed I simply and politely asked?