it’s better like I said, but when it’s the only possible missile that is fired from the top tier Mig29s in close quarters it gets easier to defend against.
It’s the only offensive play in the book of the Top tier Mig29s. Regardless of if it’s the best, it’s the only play.
Been using the Regular R27T1s to change it up in the G and it’s been pretty interesting. I like them a lot.
How does defending the R-60M differ from the R-73?
refer to my previous post.
R-73 at the ranges R-60M gets to target faster isn’t going to be flared regardless though…?
Yes, but all missiles are deadly and very resilient to flares if you sit on someone tail less than 1km away. R60Ms, Aim9Ls, PL5Cs and Pythons. (last time I played them) Its the further ranges that I see the IRCCM kick in of the Aim9M and R73.
I find that none of the mentioned missiles aside the R-73 can hit targets in dogfights at such close ranges though. Also, the R-73 in particular won’t be flared off in those situations simply by coming off burner + flaring. You’d need to reduce throttle to 0 and pre-flare to ensure it won’t hit… but that usually results in losing the fight. The R-73 can even the playing field between F-16 and MiG-29 currently.
On a sidenote, the R-60M should have an inner FoV of 4 degrees (reduced from 5 post-capture of target).
Nah man i have to agree with mig, the r73 is so much better than the r60m it’s not even funny, at certain conditions it’s just impossible to avoid it. At first i thought the aim9m was better because of the flare resistance, but after dozens of matches i just started loving that missile, i just can’t imagine using r60s again in the fulcrum, not that it’s a bad missile like many say (against 10.0-11.0 enemies it performs quite good), it’s just that the archers are marvelous, soviet engineering at its finest…
Well you just started playing in the new meta, haven’t really played the Jh7 or the SMT or the G more than a handful of times combined.
Check it out and let me know what you think after you runs some heavy games.
Superior to the American AIM-9M, as Stepanovich said prior to the introduction of the mike.
It is so much better. I just want the option lol.
I have hundreds (thousands) of games using R-60M, it’s trash. I’d take the R-73 in any circumstance.
Takes no thought to decide that, I have a clip above that wouldn’t have been possible with the R-60’s.
However yeah i think it could be an option for ppl who still wanna play with them, they could even add a mechanic calculating the BRs taking into account the armament of the vehicle (9.13 12.0 with r60s and 12.3-12.7 withs r73s).
Ummm irrelevant the game changes drastically especially the R60 has and the M for years. Flare sensitivity has been buffed to unbelievable levels and reduced the same. it always fluctuates.
Everyone knows this. It’s irrelevant if someone played the missile 1,000 games a year ago. The meta changes and things are not quite the same today nor will it be the same next patch and thereafter.
İ dont think its an option for SMT in this case.
Might be wrong tho.
I think ur right
Than makes me sad… thanks.
But I think the G should have them and be forced to use them as default from the start. The SMT is the most advanced and should be the only one currently to have them as default. but of course balance
G should have that option no doubt but forcing people into something that isnt fair is not something i choose.
On the other hand stock R-73’s and researchable R-60M’s could be option in this case, with that people can enjoy each possible loadouts how they want.
You are right, should not be so selfish because I can just GE out of a default missile when others actually have to grind out an inferior missile.
As long as you see the potantiel problem then its fine.
Because most of them doesnt like to see it.
I don’t know that many people would agree… the R-60M has been a universal constant for the most part. Easily one-flared and chases afterburners from F-14s or Phantoms pretty well from 10 degrees rear aspect.
Pretending I suddenly lose all concept of the “meta” because I have only done a couple dozen matches in the newest top tier (of which the only new addition is the R-73)… is … interesting