Yeah i slightly mis read the graph
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I mean in terms of the shape of the line, it’s perfectly straight that’s why it looks like hard cut off (similar to lines where the missile runs out of battery like r27er graphs where the missile itself still has more range but is limited by battery ) Same kind of line appears in the mig-31 manual. As it is something that is imposed by designers like I said and not the real limit like I said
Overperforming available g load report accepted
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/DFT4pGe6HJjN
That document is a manual, 4 different manuals from different eras each say the same thing. And where is this from? A “magazine”?
Again, its all time limited, you can go to 3 as the thrust clearly allows it but you can’t spend much time there and if you while staying under that maximum heat limit you will have no issues whatsoever with the engine.
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The “magazine” is interviewing lead designer of the MiG-25 btw. And lets not ignore the fact that many many pilots have said 2.83 is not a hard limit and that theyve broken it without engine issues. see indian pilot above
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He’s not arguing that it’s a hard limit at 2.83. He says that it’s simply time limited at Mach numbers above that high
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Which is also wrong. See screenshot in russian
Ka bot 15 video
Oh yeah I remember now.
But I can’t use that as a source or anything cause it’s just pilot interview
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I dont care about the plane being accurate in-game (I have long given up on that) . And if everyone wants to they can deny it. I just want it out here in the forum that it infact did not instantly melt past 2.83 and that that limit was extremly conservative
Oh no I’ve long known that it can go over Mach 3 irl. I just want it to be limited to Mach 2.83 in game because other planes are also modeled to their typical safety limits in service so it’s fair for mig-25 to share that
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Not sure what he is refering to but this is one which he mentions on the report but here “Scaning zone, Shift” says that it is fixed or 0.5 in auto or 5º on manual, but the scaning zone is still ±30º
Then he also uses this, but reading it i think that this mode just fixes the range between 2 positions, not the elevation or azimut
Overall i dont think that this referse to an ACM mode
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I’m confused, are we trying to get the aircraft nerfed so it can’t go past Mach 3?
i think the issue with other jets is that u wont have as much sources as u do for the mig25. there are so many secondary sources claiming it could fly over Mach 3.
Yeah I prefer primary sources when they’re available, it’s why most of my bug reports use brochures or manuals or stuff of that sort instead of secondary sources, I try to avoid using secondary sources as much as possible as they’re sometimes unreliable
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limiting it to mach 2.83 would be significantly more unrealistic than limiting it to mach 3 or even mach 3.2
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yes
because according to gaijins standards for Mach limits it shouldnt be able to in game
Well look at stuff like su-27 that are modeled similarly. Or mig-23. Or f-15. It’s fair for mig-25 to have this same treatment
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