Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-25 & MiG-31 Foxbat / Foxhound - History, Design, Performance & Dissection

Just posting up my sources for the above.

MiG-25PD Flight Manual (english translation)

Plus the bit where it tells pilots that the G-Limit is strength-related. The charts on the next page set some pretty tight limits - tighter than you’d see on any similar vintage of aircraft smaller than a bomber.

i think this will probably be a great plane to add
Mig 25 as a sqaudron
Mig 25 PD as a tech tree along with Mig 31

Non-PD would be a royal pain in the proverbial however - you’d have no doppler radar and be limited to four missiles of pretty archaic vintage. Think 8G overload rocket-propelled telegraph poles (R-40s).

PD? Maybe less of a pain - but as per above we’re still talking a very BIG missile bus.

My ‘vote’ would be a MiG-31 - although still a comically massive missile bus it would have the advantages of better weapons and radar so it would be usable. R-33 onwards for an AIM-54 analogue, R-77s as AMRAAMskis and R-37s as some ridiculous long-range Fox-3s.

Don’t forget that even those may prove to be dangerous. See Fakour-90.

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Fakour-90 pulls 20Gs

thats why it could be a sqaudron itll play like f104 so it will be fine

Want to retract your waffling Ivan?

BAC.Armament.R-40

‘Maximum target overload was 2.5G’

Crazed Otter Notes

Target overload for the R-24 was 5G approx. So you need to brush up on your facts. As for the R-40 it’s a BIG (nearly 1 tonne) missile designed to knock bombers out of the sky.

The mass of the entire family of R-40 missiles does not exceed 471 kg…
Авиационная ракета средней дальности Р-40 (K-40) | Ракетная техника
Уголок неба ¦ Р-40Д

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I stand corrected.

Still, half a tonne. Which in AAM terms is still one of the heaviest.

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iirc the R-23 was max 5G, the R-24 RGS-24 seeker brought it up to 8G, for target overload, which is also the same seeker on the R-40RD, and the TGS-24 for the R-24T and R-40TD.

± same as AIM-54.

Idk if I am correct (probably not) but if I take into account that in game would have MiG-25 ~7G max limit (+50% standard) so it will be ± same as IL-28. Like I can say that the plane does not turn badly at all. Definitely its not dogfighter but I can say its pretty usable.

Lots of people exaggerate its situation in their heads, like a big meteroid attempting to complete a solar orbit, and it’s not warranted

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Its 6.7G (50% included)when under 5 tons of fuel(~37%).

Dunno but soviet version is lower, 5.7G. At this point, destructive forces were shown on wings

Your main problem would be losing all your airspeed on a turn. At 8km, barely your highest sustained will be 3.2Gs while carrying 4 missiles AT 17% fuel. I think in the same fuel conditions at deck, the recon (no missiles) would theoretically pull up to 6-6.5 sustained around M0.9 but it’s beyond the falling appart Gload.

It would play like a f104 but has a slower top speed than the majority of jets under 10km and much lower acceleration than phantons also under 10km. It’s made to be high and fast and till maps stop being coin sized you’d have other planes higher and faster than you at the start of a match

Which doesn’t change the fact it would finally bring the Red side more magazine depth of long range, front aspect missiles, which they have been missing since the F-4s got sparrows. Literally just 2 more radar missiles makes it a better interceptor than the MiG-23MLs.

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The MiG-25P RP-S radar also has more range than the MiG-23ML radar while having some weird sort of Look Down I think, very limited tho.
25PD brought the RP-25M and TP-23M which gave it the long range IRST of the MiG-23ML, and 120 km of range on the RP-25M, plus the R-40RD would be a like 60 km range R-24 lol.

What rwr does the mig 25 pd use?

Some say SPO-15( you can see it on a recon variant cockpit) but TBH I’ve never seen one on the cockpit of of one. P/PD manuals don’t mention anything regarding RWRs.


Somehow missed it all this time, an EM chart. No specifics on Gross weight. Detailed values tables for various fuel weights, altitudes missiles/ no missiles do exist and I have posted them before.
2025-02-04
At sea level RB manual shows it could go up to 6.5G at 31.5 tons ( 6.0G at 34.7tons) but it is beyond it’s kaput point

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Some sources state as high as 9Gs under normal flight conditions, that’s for the upgraded R-40RD.