Idk if I am correct (probably not) but if I take into account that in game would have MiG-25 ~7G max limit (+50% standard) so it will be ± same as IL-28. Like I can say that the plane does not turn badly at all. Definitely its not dogfighter but I can say its pretty usable.
Lots of people exaggerate its situation in their heads, like a big meteroid attempting to complete a solar orbit, and it’s not warranted
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Its 6.7G (50% included)when under 5 tons of fuel(~37%).
Dunno but soviet version is lower, 5.7G. At this point, destructive forces were shown on wings
Your main problem would be losing all your airspeed on a turn. At 8km, barely your highest sustained will be 3.2Gs while carrying 4 missiles AT 17% fuel. I think in the same fuel conditions at deck, the recon (no missiles) would theoretically pull up to 6-6.5 sustained around M0.9 but it’s beyond the falling appart Gload.
It would play like a f104 but has a slower top speed than the majority of jets under 10km and much lower acceleration than phantons also under 10km. It’s made to be high and fast and till maps stop being coin sized you’d have other planes higher and faster than you at the start of a match
Which doesn’t change the fact it would finally bring the Red side more magazine depth of long range, front aspect missiles, which they have been missing since the F-4s got sparrows. Literally just 2 more radar missiles makes it a better interceptor than the MiG-23MLs.
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The MiG-25P RP-S radar also has more range than the MiG-23ML radar while having some weird sort of Look Down I think, very limited tho.
25PD brought the RP-25M and TP-23M which gave it the long range IRST of the MiG-23ML, and 120 km of range on the RP-25M, plus the R-40RD would be a like 60 km range R-24 lol.
What rwr does the mig 25 pd use?
Some say SPO-15( you can see it on a recon variant cockpit) but TBH I’ve never seen one on the cockpit of of one. P/PD manuals don’t mention anything regarding RWRs.
Somehow missed it all this time, an EM chart. No specifics on Gross weight. Detailed values tables for various fuel weights, altitudes missiles/ no missiles do exist and I have posted them before.
At sea level RB manual shows it could go up to 6.5G at 31.5 tons ( 6.0G at 34.7tons) but it is beyond it’s kaput point
4G*
Some sources state as high as 9Gs under normal flight conditions, that’s for the upgraded R-40RD.
MiG-25PD/PDS_SPO-10 “Sirena-3M” (product “S-3M”) or SPO-15 “Bereza” (product “L006”) in later series…
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That’s not true tho, the RGS-24 that the R-40RD gets, is the same as the R-24R, which can do up to 8 or 9Gs, and the R-40RD has the same seeker.
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the heaviest ever in service, actually, I believe to this day. the reason for the size is not because of pure warhead weight (although it certainly did have a large warhead), but because of a combination of available technology during development and expected target parameters and intercept profiles. for example you need large control surfaces to maintain useful controllability in an AAM at the extreme expected speeds and altitudes of what NATO was developing at the time (B-70, etc.). it’s a missile airframe from the 60s designed for an extremely specific and demanding requirement, which happens to also be effective in general, but is not optimized for general use (as the same performance for general use in air combat can be had in a smaller, lighter package even at the time). the exceptional weight and size do serve a purpose beyond the bulky electronics of the time, but that purpose is primarily against targets which were only relevant at a very particular place and time
I feel like this forum is completely illiterate.
Let’s run down the facts.
The MiG-25 has a better thrust weight than the F-14A, it has the wing area of an Su-27, and is 20 tons empty.
It has 22.4t thrust static.
MiG-25 has high dynamic thrust, ie, as the speed increases, it’s thrust increases, to the point it eventually beats an F-15A.
It has higher thrust efficiency in reheat and higher speeds than your favorites.
It has an insane amount of fuel, which is the excuse people use.
The maximum overload before breaking is 11G. Let’s take it as 11/1.5 or less.
To separate a missile that failed to fire from the pylon the manual prescribes 6G.
This shows 4.5G is not a strict limit.
Even if the 5G of a PD was, that’s 7.5G in War Thunder. If we took 6G (which implies 1.833x safety margin) it’s 9G.
Like gee when your average mission involves carrying more than your own empty weight in fuel, I wonder why the manual hates to pull G.
The lift coefficient of the MiG-25, vs AOA, is on par with F-15. It generates a tiny bit less Cl at low AOA, and a tiny bit more Cl at high AOA. The lifting body of the MiG-25 is better than on F-15.
You can stop slandering it now. The radius of a MiG-25 is actually pretty tight, it will eventually beat a slatted F-4 Phantom.
Because, say it with me, it’s FM would be like a heavier F-15.
Besides, if the F-16 wing loading is somehow too terrible, there was a MiG-25 with 2x 14.5 tons static thrust. For 1.45 t/w empty. Which is higher than most F-16Cs, while having far more dynamic thrust.
This isn’t like a J79 which just sucks ass continuously. An R-15 just gains more and more power.
The manual gives performance for 95% RPM iirc
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You have READ the actual MiG-25 pilot manual I posted above?
Because none of what you say above actually aligns with the manual for the aircraft. Maybe try reading the source material before you start calling everyone liars. Or illiterate.
I’ve even linked it for you. Happy reading.
Please provide a source for this stuff.
He won’t - because it’s a complete load of codswallop that’s straight from Chat GPT.
Soviet sources say it isn’t a dogfighter. It wasn’t designed to be.
Western sources say it isn’t a dogfighter. It wasn’t designed to be.
Some random guy on the Warthunder Forum says it is totally a dogfighter that is only marginally worse than an F-15.
Because ‘trust me bro’… ‘or trust me comrade’… whatever.
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What source is this from lol
Mig-25
F-15
You can see the MiG-25 can hit Cy max 1.15 at 18 AOA, while F-15 HIDEC needs 20 AOA for 1.15
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NONE of that actually supports any of what you are claiming above.
I’ll use your own words.
“The lifting body of the MiG-25 is better than on F-15.”
“Because, say it with me, it’s FM would be like a heavier F-15.”
How much anti-freeze do you have to be drinking to compare the MiG-25 to an F-15 in terms of aerodynamics? Actually I don’t want to know…
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No look-down, just very powerful. Stories that sometimes circle around suggest that it could cook rabbits on the runway. In 1976 there was a test in which a MiG-25P intercepted a MiG-15 drone at an altitude of 1 km with an R-40R.