Mig-35 war thunder?

How so? It’s worse in effectively every way but its engines.

su35 is from 2010, su30sm is from 2013
so yeah, su35 should already be in wt

not if they add the Irbis-e radar and it would have the same hard points (12) as the su30sm, so, still 14 missiles with better engines, radar, similar weight or a little lighter)
it loses the cool canards tho :(

brother, the su-30sm2 is an upgrade program to be on par with the su35. Where are you getting your info from?

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The Su-30SM2 is an upgrade to put it on par with the Su-35S… Not the Su-35.

The 30SM is better than the Su-35 in every single way but engine power… In which case it’s debatable, since the AL-35F’s testing run was extremely limited.

Obviously not the same place from you… You don’t even know the difference between the Su-35 and Su-35S.

It’s arcticfoxxo when they refer to the Su-35 they mean the Su-27M of which only 12 was built instead of Su-35S which is what people commonly refer as the Su-35

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Su-35 doesn’t have Irbis-E, it has the base model N011.
Would be 12 missiles, arguably could R-27EAs, but would be best with R-77s. It already employed SPO-32, so I’d say it would be a pretty nice step directly up from the Su-27SM.

It’s quite literally the first to use the canards…

I mean the Su-35… Yknow, what the aircraft is called?

usually most people mean su-35s when talking about the su-35. Im not even going to try and argue with you, ive seen you on the forums before i dont like engaging with the likes of you.

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Oh we had this conversation before. I know what you mean by the Su-35

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Usually people stipulate that they’re talking about the Su-35S. I’m not.

Then don’t? A response wasn’t warranted to begin with, it’s a spitball comment.

Tf you mean dont respond? Spitball comment? You say that the su30 is better than su35 and im supposed to just blindly agree?

Most people dont stipulate that they are talking about the su-35s, because the su-35 itself is decades older and pretty much a completely different plane.

??? what su35 are u talking about? the first that ever flew (su27m) or the one that actually was made for production, the actual su35 introduced in 2010?? no one cares about the su27m, when ppl talk about the su35 they mean the one from 2010

Yeah that too, it could have easily been added already, maybe even this update with the F-18’s coming to the game, but then again, we got the su30sm this time.

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I mean don’t respond. Is it that hard to grasp? Read it, go “hmmm, that’s definitely a thought that was conjured from somebody’s brain!”, then move on with your day.

It is. In every way.
Radar (N011 / N011M), sensor suite (SPO-32 / SPO-32M-1), general avionics from the cockpit to the defense suite. It lacks the maneuverability that the Su-30SM employs and can somewhat argue for the existence of its 30k engines.

Sure, just like most people won’t stipulate between T-80B / T-80U / T-80UM-2 / T-80BVM when talking about T-80s in game, nor the Abrams.
Then again, it’s a direct comparison. If I simply said “M1 Abrams”, you wouldn’t think I was talking about the M1A2 SEPv3 or the M1A1AIMv2. You would think I was talking about the M1 Abrams.

Hence why I said Su-35, not Su-35S.
Even more reason to say Su-35S instead of simplifying it, too.

The… Su-35… We’ve been over this.

The Su-35. If you can’t extrapolate, get back to the books.

Nobody cares about the Su-25T in lieu of the Su-25TM, yet both are in-game.

I’ve had this conversation before with them. Don’t even bother

I feel the later 29Ks would be a far better fit alongside the early Super Hornets. Whether it be 9-41 alongside 18E or 9-47 alongside 18F, I feel they match up quite well together in terms of general ability.

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Because people call the Su-25TM, Su-39

And in every single comment you’d shown your general incredulity and lack of knowledge on the subject. Maybe don’t extrapolate from what wasn’t said and you wouldn’t find yourself getting curbstomped on the intellectual front.

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Who cares what people call the Su-25TM? Both the Su-25T and Su-25TM are in-game fighting in the same nation.

Maybe try reading