Yeah, most other nations can carry up to 6, 7ms. and have much better radars, RWR
You’re not supposed to turn at Mach Jesus,… but once playing at lower speed, the MiG-23 can literally fly by any aircraft of 12.0/12.3, except maybe the F-16A blk10, but thats it
The only fix is to decompress the BRs
Not now its flight model is heavily nerfed, and the 23mm GSh gun velocity is so low that it will never pull enough to kill an F4 in a turn fight.
The flight model was adjusted according to historical documents — while overlooking the fact that, in reality, it was never able to carry those two 30-countermeasure pods. What we have is an aircraft with non-historical equipment, yet it still features strong flight performance, an IRST seeker, and unique medium-range IR missiles (which no other nation in the game currently has). And yet, there are still complaints.
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Because no other nation has the MiG-23ML or MiG-23MLD.
I never complain about it.it’s just not good enough putting in 12.0, and yet some people think it’s better than F4s or F20.
Probably mig 25 soon or su47 both are in work/passed
Can’t you see that the aircraft in your photos is an MLD, not an ML?
I was talking about MLD, not ML.
Do you know what MICA IR is?
My comment was about the ML. And that’s what the topic is about, too.
I was talking about R24T
well I was talking about MLD
The same goes for the F5A and F5C they were never able to carry flares irl.
It is,… you just play it like a damn flying bus,…
Which makes it for Skill issue argues,…
But it’s not because one is dumb, that everyone should suffer.
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It’s actually like flying a damn bus.
like i said i never complain about it
If it can easily outturn a tornado, its not a bus. The Tornado is one of the few true busses in game
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Tornado, F-104, Yak-38 for jets
J7W1, SO-8000 for Propeller fighters
If its radar ever gets fixed (preferably like it was for like month back in feb(?) 2024) it can easily go to 12.0.
Cool, anyways
No offence, but I’m just wondering.
Compression impacts every low-BR jet in an uptier match.
Everyone suffers, no exception.
But Why MiG-23ML and F-4S are having highest rate of complaining?
I understand and well aware that current compression is shithole,
And ‘better than being Tornado IDS at 11.7’ don’t makes MiG-23ML easily kills 12.7BR jets like Mirage 2000CS-5.
But, in the same theory of OP.
Does Sea Harrier FRS.1(Early) need to get buff down to 10.3 because it also pure suffering at constant 11.7 uptiers?
(which will completely kill the 9.3-10.3 bracket.)
Lowering MiG-23ML down to 11.3 is nothing but a joke when we consider the rest of the jets in 11.3BR
- J-7E with no SARH
- F-4E
- Tornado IDS W/O GBU
- F-104S
- Su-24M
I don’t think MiG-23ML acts the same as Su-24 or Tornado IDS does.
(Even if we completely exclude A2A capability and only thinks about mindless base bombing, MiG-23 still will be better than Su-24 or Tornado IDS)
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F4s is great tbh
I don’t think MiG23 is a weak vehicle in any way shape or form, but just the fact people are doing badly on the best jet at a particular BR shows how bad is the compression, especially considering u still got a tornado at 11.7.