MIG 21-F-13 not having the K-13 missile

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You’re not that guy

I agree Gaijin should fix that, they have been making lots of bug fixes recently.

What?

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You are the guy.

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What’s the plane supposed to do then? Having only 60 rounds on a 30mm at 9.3 is atrocious, and removing its only other ability to get kills would basically make it useless for anyone but the most masochistic of players. It would also remove the main true tech-tree counter for the F-104A/C imo

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Yes so it makes it more viable, with all it’s got right now it needs help it can’t compete. The f104 has aim 9b’s the R13 is literally a reverse engineered aim 9b if that’s not balancing the game I don’t know what is

What are you talking about? K-13 is already in the game, and installed on the MiG-21F-13. R-3S is the military designation of the original K-13 (or AA-2A in NATO designation). Basically:

  • K-13 is the family of missiles based on the original reverse engineered AIM-9 captured in 1958. K-13 is a manufacturing designation, not the name of the missile given to it by the VVS.
  • R-3S (AA-2A) of 1961 is the first of the family and equal to the AIM-9B
  • R-3R (AA-2B) of 1966 is the second of the family and equal to the AIM-9C (radar homing)
  • R-13M & M1 came in 1969 and are more equal to the AIM-9D/G (higher maneuvering, longer range)
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but it does have the K-13 Missiles it carried and even the advanced version R3S instead of the Original Reverse engineered R3 that was never put to service

Additionally R3R and R13M/M1 need a different Fire control system than the F13 system fitted to this version of the Fishbet

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R3 is reverse engineered AIM-9b. R13 is reverse engineered AIM-9J

No, R-13 has nothing to do with future AIM-9 variants. It was a domestic upgrade program that gave it roughly equivalent features to the AIM-9D/G/J (imagine an average of the three). I don’t know for sure about this but its possible it might’ve at least taken some design cues from missiles captured during the Vietnam war, I know the Sparrow was used as a benchmark for the R-23/24.

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Oh goodness. There is nothing to fix because it already has it. Here is the wiki describing it: R-3S - War Thunder Wiki

A funny story

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that genuinely sounds like a movie plot lol, very cool

K-13 is just another name for the R-3S…

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No!.Only the principle of a semi-active radar homing head is common.
The R-23R is a fundamentally different missile (with target capture on the trajectory), there was no analogue of the R-23T at all in the USA…
The AIM-7E copy program is the K-25 missile…

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he did NOT say it was a copy

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The standard (as he wrote) AIM-7 the same is not… Before R-23R were R-1/R-2/R-4/R-8/R-98… not counting experimental projects…
R-98R (1965) the first rocket in the USSR with the possibility of firing in the anterior hemisphere…
R-23R is the first in the world with target capture on the trajectory and with the ability to fire at the target against the background of the ground…

No. He said the Russians used the AIM-7 as a STANDARD as to what they should try to ACHIEVE in the R-24. Not that it was used as a developmental basis. Read.

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