And Meteor is already denied, and I don’t see that coming for awhile. As I pointed out in the thread above, Smin’s comment on Meteor and MICA NG is available there.
Its abt time MICA gets seeker nerf
People have been given a year and a half to learn the basics at this point (more if you count the test on the dev server). They are not going to. Never.
Its abt time all modern ARHs got a seeker buff
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My only stance is that MICAs are still a meta missile even while lacking range. Notch once or twice on the initial joust, get within 20km of targets while on altiude and throw MICAs top down against people.
ez pz.
Agreed, I’d rather have all missiles be buffed to micas level than mica be nerfed
Mainly, I’d say it’s a close call with someone bringing solely 12 R77-1 and firing them senselessly.
A smart su30SM2, using both R77 and R27ER with the excellent radar of the SM2 is better than a rafale in my opinion
I don’t necessarily agree with it. In one hand, many missiles would be much, much better below 3-4km, but on the other hand, with current modeling of the ASRAAM, the MICA EM especially (since it’s less draggy than the IR) would still be just as powerful in those 5-10km engagements. Especially since it’s a radar missile that requires notching (while current IIR is quite easy to flare as of now).
The MICA IR + EM combo would be absolutely insane imo, since both missiles require slightly different methods to notch/flare (with IIR case width modeling, you don’t want to notch, but you’d have to notch the fox 3). And that’s only comparing to the ASRAAM, which with the current modeling, would be worse than an AIM9M in HOBS.
Meanwhile, the US while retain a sub 10km AIM9X missile and will complain just as much after receiving those missiles.
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It may be a problem, but sooner or later things will change. However, asking for realism will not change or improve the game; it will only make it worse. Therefore, it is best to wait and correct what is logical, and try to understand whether or not there are reasons for the developers’ choices.
Is there any report on it ? I doubt the R77 can come close to the MICA, as I haven’t seen any information that its overload would be better, and it lacks TVC
And maybe there should be that buff, but please note, I’m not anti-realism, but first I think this is a game, but I also want new things in the game.
And I agree it’s still a great missile which I pointed out in the thread. But having that ability to pressure people even just a little bit in early game would be nice to have with a range increase. It would still have less range than R-77-1, AIM-120A/C/D, PL-12, and PL-12A. But it would be one extra tool in the toolshed for whenever your teammates with longer ranged missiles refuse to climb and provide early-game pressure even though you still have limited amount of missiles.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/t87egJpsGQUk
Although I should probably update it, as it looks like 45 aoa is no longer realistic, since then found more sources that states it’s 40 aoa and not 45 (still underperforming but not as much)
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You can’t edit reports after they close it wtf.
Well the sources themselves state 40…-45 aoa, but I can’t add my new sources that state limit of 40 degrees
This report is based on a patent. If patent were used to define systems, you would have Mach 15 capable aircrafts with high intensity laser weapons.
Wether a real life application of said patent was correctly and fully introduced on a commercialized system has to be proven
Once again, limited vision. Increasing a missile’s range means less drag or more speed or a better engine, all of which translates into a huge buff that makes the missile even better at short distances.
It specifically states for a missile falling within these parameters which rvv-ae falls onto (has different disclosure) and it mentions rvv ae twice
Even then, a patent is a patent. Nothing more than legally protected proof of concept
Increasing a missile’s range could be increasing the loft which decreases the time-to-target in close-medium ranges which is where the MICA’s advantage is currently.
The MOCA is still the only fox 3 without time-range table thingy, which limit maneuvering at long range. This would make the missile less unstable and mechanically reduce the drag without making it stronger. Especially since the TVC makes the missile extremely wobbly even at high altitude. This, plus a more optimized loft would probably fix the range report as well as the vertical launch parameters (at least to a certain degree)
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There is a limit to what the Loft can do , increasing the loft can cause more problems than it solves.