Merkava 4 armor is long overdue to be buffed

I have seen some of those footages as well, but that is where the armor comes into play. It is higher than that in game but not impenetrable. There is no tank that can save you from multiple threats coming from different angels. No tank can guarantee 1000mm of protection 360 degrees all round protection.

As you have correctly pointed out tank gets hit but not always destroyed , same as a lot of T-72(90, bvm etc.) also get hit disabled and only some rouge drone dumps a projectile detonating the ammo inside the autoloader.

Are the sides of the hull gonna stay ~480mm forever? Did anybody notice it too? How can ~400mm of NERA & 50mm of RHA(hullโ€™s base armor) provide 480mm? Its got x1.075 CE modifier to NERA in that case when it should be x1.7 ๐Ÿ˜ญ

I mean against atgms like kornets
Also even if the aps doesnt work just rpg doesnt do much

Israel negative bias

Side armor has more protection than front armor

Itโ€™s really tragic

war thunder wonโ€™t even go as far as to acknowledge that the APS isnโ€™t working

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What is this? is that a joke? WHY IS THE APS REPLACING THE ARMOR??? CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN???

I can confirm this is actually true, the Turret Modular Armor is a different package on the 4M. This level space is there ive had multiple occasions in my service i could take i look in there while mechanics were doing repairs.

And what you have showed is the front of the aps, not the back

There is however a model fix iโ€™d like implemented and thats the breach being open on the 4 series and close on the 1,2,3 series.

Okay then. I got some things to ask:

  1. How about these things behind the turret wedges, which are 80-120mm thick and completely missing from the game?(adding them could potentially solve the armor issue of the turret, if they were modeled from something hard like RHA for example)
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  2. Why is the hull composition 3 materials in the game when it can be clearly seen that its just 2 materials? Did they just make up the materials?
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This may not be the same thickness but its there.

Iโ€™m sorry, I didnโ€™t know you are expert on armor materials? Just because you see the engine bay door open and it has 2 โ€œstepsโ€ this does not disclose the armor composition. I agree the armor model is wrong but these pictures unfortunately dont show enough information.

They do show that there are 2 different types of armor compositions(2 steps, each step might be have different armor composition). Knowing that Israel developed SLERA which is also against KE rounds(why would Israel develop reactive armor against KE and CE and not use it on their main battle tank, Merkava Mk4+?), its very likely that in one of the two โ€˜stepsโ€™ (one of the two main armor compositions) there is probably SLERA (I can guess that the top part is SLERA, and the bottom part is somekind of different a composition). Yeah thats my opinion I ainโ€™t an expert but I cannot trust this game anymore about armor - its not really realistic(Merkava Mk4 engineโ€™s side missing armor, Mk3 has hollow armor in the turret, Namer has no armor at allโ€ฆ)

I also really need to ask this question:

If T-90M/M1A2 Abrams/Leopard 2A7V had their turret armor made only from NERA, how good would they perform? and how good would the Merkava Mk4 perform if it had not only NERA?

Key word โ€œmight haveโ€

Exactly, which is why your statement is invalid unfortunately.

We both agree the Merkavas were done dirty, but your โ€œopinionโ€ does not contribute the cause. Only reliable pictures and sources (like the pictures of armor with โ€œexplosiveโ€ written all over them).

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Oh yeah the picture with the word โ€œexplosiveโ€ might also support my opinion but yes thats my opinion so no valid proof so no armor fix

gaijin case closed โœ…

Apperantly Israel, the small country, is surrounded by countries that could turn into enemies, like Egypt for example which has 1000+ Abrams tanks. But oh yeah the Merkava Mk4 got no KE protection because of small terror organizations that keep barking day and night, sure, whatever. But what about the countries with tanks that could invade from the ground? Makes no sense at all, zero logic.

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Its an amogus obviusly

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