Merkava 4 armor is long overdue to be buffed

I will make it simple…
Mk4 weights 65 tons <—> Namer weights 64.4 tons
Namer uses Mk4’s chassis(officials say…)
Namer doesn’t have the massive Mk4 turret

I wonder what’s keeping it balanced in the game tho… all the weight is in the front - huge engine, “40 tons” of front armor 😂🤣

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I talking irl
Ofc gaijin logic is dumb merkava weight 65 tons empty mass
And namer weight 64 tons fully loaded and im exaggerating

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What I said is also related to real life.
one thing im not sure about tho, the IDF mentioned that the Merkava Mk4 weights ~80 tons, so I’m not sure if the Namer weights 80 tons or ~65 tons.

We have the specified weight, it is indeed correct ingame, but the Merkava’s isn’t. Mind you the Namer lost a ~20+ ton turret, and still weighs a lot due to it being an even more up-armored Merkava hull.

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if merkava weight 80 tons what makes u think its less armored then the namer it doesnt make any sanse namer is just merkava hull

Ingame Merkava Mk4 sides are ~400mm NERA(lets keep up with gaijin…) so should be ~700mm. I’ll show you why I think its gotta be at least somewhere around 900-1000mm on the sides ingame(probably 1100mm+ IRL with SLERA…)



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Ik that but the point is that namer is just merkava hull and in the m4 most of the crew is in the turret which is more armored so how the namer(or hull) is more armored then the m4

Assuming the Namer and Merkava Mk4 have their real armor, Namer would be harder to kill. The front hull is the same, yes there is no turret but, from the sides its much protected. Also its an APC after all… its not supposed to face tanks from close range, it has lower profile(no massive turret) and spike missiles so it can hide behind mountains/houses and shoot at others without any risk.

is it harder to kill if it cant shoot at your face with apfsds?

is it a bird? is it a plane? nope its a 900mm Spike ATGM flying straight from above 🌠

war thunder is war thunder, they dont even hit from above its all a big show

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yeah

Hi everyone, today I´m bringing good news. I found a patent published by Rafael back in 2005 that has been flying under the radar since. I´m convinced this patent describes part of Merkava 4 armor and it provides the first solid support I know of to argue in favor of substantially better KE protection than its currently modeled ingame.

In few words, Merkava 4´s Modular Reactive Armor contains 2 types of armor combined: the already known SLERA for defeating CE threats but also a fully passive spaced composite plates array tailored to defeat 120-125mm APFSDS. The patent I´m talking about describes these.

Estimations made thanks to this new source indicate that Merkava 4 KE turret protection shuld be buffed to a sufficiently high figure as to resist rounds such as KE-W/DM43 even at short ranges (670mm at 60º, 560mm at 0º). The hull´s UFP should be buffed at least to 480-500mm (420mm at 0º), so it should fully stop rounds up to BM42 or DM33 level, more powerful rounds may be stopped by using the powerpack compartment as spaced armor. This also goes for the front hull of all Namer variants.

I encourage you to fully read the article I wrote on this before attempting to make a bug report, as this source is nothing less than a breakthrough for understanding Merkava 4 armor and the whole topic is quite complex.

https://alanscave.blogspot.com/2025/01/understanding-merkava-4-armor.html

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Can i kiss your legs?

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Can u do the bug report?
It seems that you know pretty well about this topic

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I was planning to but it would take some days. Any help in compacting this information for a concise report is welcome.

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Well i dont know about this stuff enough so i wish u good luck

Looks very detailed but then again, I won’t be surprised anymore. Even if this gets through, we might see a rework in about a year or never lol. Pretty awesome stuff though, waiting for the report <3

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Real-life values go even beyond, with an IDF officer once admitted that they took a ‘safety range’ above what was necessary to protect the tank from local tank gun threats - so well beyond the KE-W level, since that is Egypt’s top shell. The hull supposedly resists all modern tank guns up to DM53, if Israel admits one thing double it and you got the real data. The turret of even Mk.4A/B was nearly invulnerable to Kornets (ask Eli Daparin).

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Well here I´m trying to get to an estimation as supported as possible by sources. Its very possible that through the years the armor has been improved in different aspects through continuous iterations. But here I´m refering to what may be the first generation of Merkava 4 armor, as described in the source cited. Given the described theoretical limits of this armor technology, I see it unlikely that the hull can stop DM53 without sacrificing the power pack (and if so, not at close range).

For the turret on the other hand, the article supports the idea that both the front and side can resist succesfully Kornet shots pretty much at any angle.

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